psychoslice
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How can anyone prove something that is just a story ?.Now please go ahead to bring a proof.
Anybody, please
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How can anyone prove something that is just a story ?.Now please go ahead to bring a proof.
Anybody, please
Regards
Thanks for your silent confirmation. Right?In other words our friends here confirm that the verses given in the previous post have not been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious revealed scripture in the world?
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It would be an odd claim. Judaism doesn't accept the existence of prophets post early Second Temple period.It really is very plain and obvious for most. There should have at least been sources cited and credit given No different than me using a quote I like from a forum member on here while saying I actually received it through divine inspiration. One could go to the deep end and petition that the rabbi borrowed from was instead a prophet - so it was God repeating himself and not Muhammad or followers stealing teachings and stories from local Jews and Christians. None ever even suggest it though.
To me it is hand in hand with selectively naming Jewish and Christian prophetic figures while claiming every nation of the world had at least one. All the pieces of the puzzle show localized information cobbled together to form a campaign.
Deut. 11:13,14Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah
The Holy Quran : Chapter 71: Nooh [2]
[71:11]“And I said, ‘Seek forgiveness of your Lord; for He is the Great Forgiver.
[71:12]‘He will send down rain for you in abundance,
Deut. 30:5[71:13]‘And He will strengthen you with wealth andwithchildren, and He will give you gardens and He will give you rivers.
Just as their faces are different, their ideas are different.71:14]‘What is the matter with you that you expect not wisdom and staidness from Allah?
[71:15]‘And He has created you indifferentforms anddifferentconditions.
Seven heavens:[71:16]‘Have you not seen how Allah has created seven heavens inperfectharmony,
Jer. 31:34[71:17]‘And has placed the moon therein as a light, and made the sun as a lamp?
Not sure what this means.[71:18]‘And Allah has caused you to grow as agoodgrowth from the earth,
[71:19]‘Then will He cause you to return thereto, and He will bring you fortha newbringing forth.
Not sure this needs a reference.[71:20]‘And Allah has made the earth for you a wide expanse
This basically just looks like the Noah story a little confused.Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah
The Holy Quran : Chapter 71: Nooh [3]
[71:21]‘That you may traverse the open ways thereof.’”
[71:22]Noah said, “My Lord, they have disobeyed me, and followed one whose wealth and children have only added to his ruin.
[71:23]“And they have planned a mighty plan.
[71:24]“And they sayto one another, ‘Forsake not your godsunder any circumstances. And forsake neither Wadd, nor Suwa‘, nor Yaghuth and Ya‘uq and Nasr.’
[71:25]“And they have led many astray; so increase Thou not the wrongdoers but in error.”
[71:26]Because of their sins they were drowned and made to enter Fire. And they found no helpers for themselves against Allah.
[71:27]And Noah said, ‘My Lord, leave not in the land a single one of the disbelievers;
[71:28]‘For, if Thou dost leave them, they willonlylead astray Thy servants and will not give birth but to a sinneranda disbeliever.
[71:29]‘My Lord, forgive me and my parents, and him who enters my house as a believer, and the believing men and the believing women; and increase Thou not the wrongdoers but in perdition.’
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=71&verse=21
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This doesn't need reference.Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah
The Holy Quran : Chapter 70: Al-Ma`arij [1]
[70:1]In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[70:2]An inquirer inquires concerning the punishment about to fall
[70:3]Upon the disbelievers, which none can repel.
[70:4]It isfrom Allah, Lord ofgreatascents.
From the earth to the heavens is five hundred years[70:5]The angels and the Spirit ascend to Him in a day the measure of which is fifty thousand years.
If you see the heavens are set like iron from not raining it is because of the deeds of the generation.[70:6]So be patient with admirable patience.
[70:7]They see it to be far off,
[70:8]But We see it to be nigh.
[70:9]The day when the heaven will become like molten copper,
[70:10]And the mountains will become like flakes of wool,
This doesn't need reference.
From the earth to the heavens is five hundred years
Each of the [seven] heaven is five hundred years
and between each heaven is five hundred years...
-Talmud
If you see the heavens are set like iron from not raining it is because of the deeds of the generation.
-Talmud
That's an interesting fact that doesn't seem to have any relevance to the topic under discussion....The oldest full manuscript of the Talmud, known as the Munich Talmud (Cod.hebr. 95), dates from 1342 and is available online.Regards
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talmud
The oldest full manuscript of the Talmud, known as the Munich Talmud (Cod.hebr. 95), dates from 1342 and is available online.Regards
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talmud
Muhammad did not quote from Talmud.And yet Mohammed quotes the Talmud. Such cases.