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I don't particularly want to sin...

Sheldon

Veteran Member
You're choosing extremely isolated anecdotes. Are you able to speak on a fundamental and over-arching level?
You know that isn't true, as I posted several links to research showing animals experience emotions and exhibit grief. You are ignoring objective evidence in favour of faith based superstition.
 

Sheldon

Veteran Member
ok, let's just say that you came from the apes, but the majority of us humans, like myself, did not come from the apes but were uniquely created by God, and incontrovertibly with His spirit within us, unlike any other creature on earth.
You can say the moon is made of cheese, but it is not, and all humans are part of the family of great apes, and evolved from common ancestors. Unlike your claims that is supported by overwhelming scientific evidence.
 

Sheldon

Veteran Member
Have it your way Sheldon, let's just say that you came from the apes and leave it at that. For, there is substantial evidence to justify that claim. As for myself, I was created in God's image, by God Himself, with a spiritual dimension that allows me to discern the unseen. My vision is not perfect due to my selfishness, depravity and lack of humility before God, but, unfortunately, it surpasses yours, who insists that you are an ape - a victim of the Dawkin's delusion.

I am simply accepting the scientific evidence, which overwhelmingly supports species evolution, the genetic evidence alone, is sufficient to accurately demonstrate our taxonomy. Theistic beliefs and the lack of them, have absolutely no relevance to that.
 

Secret Chief

Vetted Member
I am simply accepting the scientific evidence, which overwhelmingly supports species evolution, the genetic evidence alone, is sufficient to accurately demonstrate our taxonomy. Theistic beliefs and the lack of them, have absolutely no relevance to that.

Here's a little something for your head.

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SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
On what grounds could we say that this or that action is wrong?
By assessing the consequences of those actions on the people and things around us. By caring about the well being of sentient creatures.

Why do we need God(s) to make moral judgments?
 
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SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Have it your way Sheldon, let's just say that you came from the apes and leave it at that. For, there is substantial evidence to justify that claim. As for myself, I was created in God's image, by God Himself, with a spiritual dimension that allows me to discern the unseen. My vision is not perfect due to my selfishness, depravity and lack of humility before God, but, unfortunately, it surpasses yours, who insists that you are an ape - a victim of the Dawkin's delusion.
You have magic powers? Cool! Can you demonstrate it to us? Please do explain how scientists have got everything all wrong because you say so.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Homosexuals need to renounce their ways, and all will be forgiven. Just as I had to do myself, and am still working on. I'm not the one calling good, evil, and evil, good. No one hates the sinner, but we do abhor the sin. Whereas you love them both.
No they don't. What they need is people like you to leave them alone.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
The Jesus Christ response was just an example of how, for example, a Christian my find a compassionate answer in something truthful. With that example, it doesn't take much thought to see other ways that superseded the need to tell a lie.
This belies the point again.

Lying to the nazis in order to save someone's life, for my simple mind, yes, I would think that that constitutes a moral act. But, again, that's just me who may lack the wisdom to avoid a lie, but still achieve the same result - saving the persecuted's life.
Great, then lying is not always an immoral action.

Telling the truth is always the best policy, but, yes, sometimes it requires great tact and diplomacy, and great wisdom to do so without eliciting an adverse reaction.
Not in certain situations, as demonstrated. So lying isn't an absolutely immoral action.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
ok, let's just say that you came from the apes, but the majority of us humans, like myself, did not come from the apes but were uniquely created by God, and incontrovertibly with His spirit within us, unlike any other creature on earth.

You can say whatever you want.
It won't change anything about the evidence of reality.

You can deny your biological makeup, but it won't be changing anything.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
Neil de Grassi is wrong

Neil is not a biologist. What are you talking about or referring to?

The problem with you atheists and pedantic scientists is that you claim that if one cannot either see or quantify something, then it doesn't exist.

Again, what are you talking about or referring to?
What are you replying to?

Words cannot express the shallow and devoid of perception your insights are. Look at the world around you, and count the inexcusable, unwarranted, and gratuitous atrocities that are committed everyday, throughout history. And, for the life of you, if you cannot detect that there's a spiritual warfare taking place within man every single day of his life, then you are blind as a bat - which, all you atheist are. For even the dumb, stupid animal kingdom do not behave in such a senseless and self-annihilating manner that man does - and yet, man is biologically the most intelligent of them all.

You pseudo scientists who claim how observant and analytical that you are, and pride yourselves as such, there is truly not a perceptive bone in any of your bodies.


Again, what are you talking about or referring to?
What are you replying to?


Do you have something besides silly irrelevant and random ad hominins? Something on point perhaps? Some actual response to what is said in the post you are supposedly replying to?

Or is this the best you can do?
 
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TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
Every time that I try, I end up meeting scary people like your atheist selves.

I think it's ironic to see how you as a "christians" are the one in this thread who's energy is most negative.

You are intolerant to boot and seem to only be concerned with badmouthing others.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Homosexuality is an abomination, as are countless other sexual deviancies. But, we hope that people will renounce their corrupt ways and embrace what God has created to be a wholesome and healthy, in all aspects, lifestyle
No, it's not. And you have demonstrated no such thing.

Instead, you're quoting the opinions and attitudes of bronze age peoples claiming to speak for God(s).

There is nothing abominable about being gay. And if there is, your God is the one to blame, not the human beings you want to demonize. My cousin is infinity happier in her life than she has ever been. Who are you to say she's not?

Your cousin will be happier if she either remains heterosexual, or stays celibate. For one, it will be better for her in the long run, but she'll also enjoy marriage and relationships much more, if she practices in a manner that her Creator intended.
Demonstrably wrong. She was miserable back when she was pretending to be something she wasn't. She and her wife are very happy and they have a beautiful daughter.

I don't endorse what your cousin did.
She doesn't care. She's happy without your approval.
 
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SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
You know that isn't true, as I posted several links to research showing animals experience emotions and exhibit grief. You are ignoring objective evidence in favour of faith based superstition.
I've posted a bunch too. I guess people think if you ignore and deny things, they just don't exist.
 

lukethethird

unknown member
Homosexuality is an abomination, as are countless other sexual deviancies. But, we hope that people will renounce their corrupt ways and embrace what God has created to be a wholesome and healthy, in all aspects, lifestyle
Your cousin will be happier if she either remains heterosexual, or stays celibate. For one, it will be better for her in the long run, but she'll also enjoy marriage and relationships much more, if she practices in a manner that her Creator intended.

I don't endorse what your cousin did.

Are you happier remaining heterosexual? I mean, you should know eh?
 

DNB

Christian
You know that isn't true, as I posted several links to research showing animals experience emotions and exhibit grief. You are ignoring objective evidence in favour of faith based superstition.
You've never studied or observed animals on your own? They've exhibited some characteristics that somehow has made you believe that they pray to gods, conduct funerals, enact legislation, or hold charity events? Do keep it mind that I am referring to planet earth, eh?
 
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