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  1. Lionel Refson

    International Court of Moderate Abrahamic Religious Leaders

    Where did I say that restricting religious freedom should be undertaken. I guess we face a different situation in Europe let us randomly pick a verse from the Koran Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of...
  2. Lionel Refson

    International Court of Moderate Abrahamic Religious Leaders

    Ok, so what is your take on this particular part?
  3. Lionel Refson

    The Jew The Christian The Muslim. Can YOU Help The Therapist?

    Yes, the removal of the God concept, especially a God that operates on earth is the key
  4. Lionel Refson

    A different approach to revising Judaism, Christianity and Islam

    That is correct That is not correct. The contents of my thread was What Facebook has just done with Nick Clegg is interesting.,an independent court to help Facebook and other social media platforms make decisions as to which content should be included/excluded. The courts rulings are...
  5. Lionel Refson

    A different approach to revising Judaism, Christianity and Islam

    Point missed!
  6. Lionel Refson

    A different approach to revising Judaism, Christianity and Islam

    Great for Christianity,...what about the other two? What I proposed is not happening! It takes three to tango and the verses that cause divisiveness remain.
  7. Lionel Refson

    The Jew The Christian The Muslim. Can YOU Help The Therapist?

    True, but they do feel guilt if they are gay
  8. Lionel Refson

    The Jew The Christian The Muslim. Can YOU Help The Therapist?

    What if the Jew tells you that God never helped the Jews in the Holocaust, or answered their prayers and instead punished them as he will be punished? What would you say to the Catholic lesbian who is convinced she is hellbound?
  9. Lionel Refson

    Am I Wrong To Think That There Is A God, But Not Operating In This World

    Thanks. You got to the same place as I did more or less. It is not about the gifts. I posted my thoughts on it somewhere above
  10. Lionel Refson

    The Jew The Christian The Muslim. Can YOU Help The Therapist?

    A therapist has three patients. One is Jewish and suffers from terrible feelings of guilt and fear because he does not keep any of the 613 commandments and to make matters worse, he lives in an anti-semitic road and yet he feels above the locals because he is jewish.. The next is a catholic...
  11. Lionel Refson

    Am I Wrong To Think That There Is A God, But Not Operating In This World

    You are right. Apologies! That makes sense.
  12. Lionel Refson

    Am I Wrong To Think That There Is A God, But Not Operating In This World

    IMO The Bible ends after God spoke to the sons of Noah , for reasons I have explained above. Do not dwell in Deuteronomy The God of All is not the God of one tribe and does not destroy others of his creations
  13. Lionel Refson

    Am I Wrong To Think That There Is A God, But Not Operating In This World

    atoms and molecules planets and suns............its all the same to me
  14. Lionel Refson

    A different approach to revising Judaism, Christianity and Islam

    ........and expecting no reward nor thanks is the key!
  15. Lionel Refson

    Am I Wrong To Think That There Is A God, But Not Operating In This World

    I reject Exodus etc.........tribal self interest as you know. heaven is a return to God, not heaven in the christian sense
  16. Lionel Refson

    Am I Wrong To Think That There Is A God, But Not Operating In This World

    I get it now. I asked myself for 47 years how God could let bad things happen . My conclusions are the title of this thread. I do not see what other conclusions there could be, if you believe there is a God.
  17. Lionel Refson

    Am I Wrong To Think That There Is A God, But Not Operating In This World

    Not at all, but i do not understand why you say that omniscience taken to this level naturally leads to a pessimistic negative opinion of God.? Why would it As you say we have complete freewill. My belief is that because of this freewill and self-awareness God watches us and cries sometimes and...
  18. Lionel Refson

    Am I Wrong To Think That There Is A God, But Not Operating In This World

    Not for me I am afraid You have to start with the belief that God knows all things, present and future, so God knew exactly what Cain and Abel would offer and what was to transpire Therefore the only conclusion has to be as i said earlier ......... Abel was sacrificed (as God knew Abel would be...
  19. Lionel Refson

    Am I Wrong To Think That There Is A God, But Not Operating In This World

    Accept my apologies for my error re your beliefs. I shouldn't post when thinking of other things. However for me life is suffering, but pre-armed with that I never suffer. We agree that life is an illusion, I think .
  20. Lionel Refson

    Am I Wrong To Think That There Is A God, But Not Operating In This World

    IMO Yes it does make sense to me as well and it is another interpretation, one I have missed. I have answered Aupmanyav a different way.......BUT I am a vegetarian!! You can spend years studying genesis and miss things. I actually had never been looking for vegetarianism in it, only...
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