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  1. Lionel Refson

    Am I Wrong To Think That There Is A God, But Not Operating In This World

    Ancient hebrew scribes whose ancestors came from Sumer
  2. Lionel Refson

    Am I Wrong To Think That There Is A God, But Not Operating In This World

    left us to it ......Absolutely!! Your conclusion is completely incorrect imo I prefer to use the hebrew original ( more or less) as well version for obvious reasons 5 But your blood, of your souls, I will demand [an account]; from the hand of every beast I will demand it, and from the hand of...
  3. Lionel Refson

    Revising The Abrahamic Religions

    A great answer............to a different issue. I am not forcing any change. Re-read what I posted above. If that religion believes that murdering the followers of another religion is acceptable in some way, or encourages their State to do so , then that is not acceptable and my proposal may...
  4. Lionel Refson

    Christianity: A Summary

    Christianity is the hardest Abrahamic religion to reject, because of its peaceful loving nature, in the main, but is has one major issue, the idea of Jesus as the Messiah This idea alienates Jews and Muslims and for that reason it is divisive and cannot be the true path to God Once Christianity...
  5. Lionel Refson

    Christianity: A Summary

    Redemption God made provision for the rebellion of man. Even though man's sins and corruption were contrary to the standard and nature of God, He provided a Way of escape from the coming reckoning. He became a man, Himself, and took the penalty for all of man's sins, if they will receive it. God...
  6. Lionel Refson

    International Court of Moderate Abrahamic Religious Leaders

    Anti- religious yes, anti- God no! So you are totally fine with the violence of Islamic extremists....I see!
  7. Lionel Refson

    International Court of Moderate Abrahamic Religious Leaders

    No, I am a theist. I am far from totalitarian. You say you are a theist. Are you happy that God has to witness such acts of murder, violence in God's name. You OK with that, theist? There are verses in the Koran, in Deuteronomy and the new testament that can be taught to radicalize. Its...
  8. Lionel Refson

    Am I Wrong To Think That There Is A God, But Not Operating In This World

    Genesis 9:6 reads to me as Whoever sheds the blood of man through man shall his blood be shed, for in the image of God He made man. Remember this is the voice of God, not a prophet, not a messiah, this is God. In the beginning of all the Abrahamic holy books God makes a statement . For me it...
  9. Lionel Refson

    International Court of Moderate Abrahamic Religious Leaders

    What Facebook has just done with Nick Clegg is interesting.,an independent court to help Facebook and other social media platforms make decisions as to which content should be included/excluded. The courts rulings are binding... Perhaps there should be an International court of moderate...
  10. Lionel Refson

    Revising The Abrahamic Religions

    So what exactly, if your religion is so perfect and non-divisive and is beloved by the other abrahamic faiths AND venerated as the only true path is your objection to my proposal What FB has just done with Nick Clegg is interesting An independent court to help Fb and other social media...
  11. Lionel Refson

    Revising The Abrahamic Religions

    But the "who" keeps changing. A moderate Imam or worshipper may turn at any time and they have the words of God right there to allow them to do so. A moderate may become radicalized because a fundamentalist christian attacked their mosque and vice-versa. the poison remains in the holy books IMO
  12. Lionel Refson

    Revising The Abrahamic Religions

    we have both rational and emotional brains so we can never be 100% rational. Now can we go back to my big idea please..(emotional plea) perhaps we could set up a trial-run type of court on these forums?
  13. Lionel Refson

    Should Society Ban The Abrahamic Religions And How?

    Revising The Abrahamic Religions
  14. Lionel Refson

    Should Society Ban The Abrahamic Religions And How?

    Anyway i was wrong, probably not practical to ban them It is a bad idea to ban them so see post revising the Abrahamic religions. The conclusion I have reached to date is as follows Just repeating an idea i had earlier What FB has just done with Nick Clegg is interesting An independent court...
  15. Lionel Refson

    Revising The Abrahamic Religions

    Here is where i have arrived, sorry to repeat it over and over but it could be missed Just repeating an idea i had earlier What FB has just done with Nick Clegg is interesting An independent court to help Fb and other social media platforms make decisions as to which content should be...
  16. Lionel Refson

    Revising The Abrahamic Religions

    On a point about eco-terrorism. When they start blowing themselves up en masse and killing many others, men, women and children I might start to get worried. lets hope recent religious suicide bombers and gunmen, don't start setting an example.
  17. Lionel Refson

    Revising The Abrahamic Religions

    Of course it is the who that is important, but you cannot vet the who and the who can change their minds at any time. Teachers and preachers can become radicalized at any time and spread that radicalization quickly, especially in response to what they view as blasphemy, measured by various texts...
  18. Lionel Refson

    Revising The Abrahamic Religions

    There are several ways to discredit the old thinking. A new faith like bahai.....but that further divides and rains persecution down on the new religion's believers. Cosy inter-faith chat which the moderates like but so what. The moderates are not really the issue. My approach in my book is to...
  19. Lionel Refson

    Revising The Abrahamic Religions

    the Gnostic gospels were left out, the balance was lost. Actually 13 year olds have their own minds. They just are not to closed-minded at that age. Texts do not tell people what to think unless the reader believes that the text comes from God anever mind the "and the Lord said" parts. You fail...
  20. Lionel Refson

    Should Society Ban The Abrahamic Religions And How?

    But consider the damage and harm done to non-hebrews when the hebrews claimed that God was/is on their God and that they were chosen. It does not matter whether chosen means "favoured" or chosen to be "scapegoats", the fact is that hebrews/jews are seen by others to think themselves special in...
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