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  1. Lionel Refson

    Am I Wrong To Think That There Is A God, But Not Operating In This World

    Then i would go back to the Bible and re-read. Which is what I did!
  2. Lionel Refson

    Am I Wrong To Think That There Is A God, But Not Operating In This World

    God knows all things. Abel was sacrificed (as God knew Abel would be killed ) to show humanity the forgiveness of God. Abel loved God so much that this sacrifice would, to him not have been a sacrifice but a blessing. God knew that Cain would bring a meagre harvest, become jealous and kill Abel...
  3. Lionel Refson

    International Court of Moderate Abrahamic Religious Leaders

    As I posted on another thread........ Three points to make. One is that no one faith can take the lead in any reform which means that something else must take a lead for reform to happen. Secondly if religions do not vet themselves soon I imagine that Governments might step in a la Muslims...
  4. Lionel Refson

    A different approach to revising Judaism, Christianity and Islam

    I presume you mean this thread International Court of Moderate Abrahamic Religious Leaders. of course I am serious! My thread on banning abrahamic religions was not serious Three points One is that no one faith can take the lead in any reform which means that something else must take a lead...
  5. Lionel Refson

    International Court of Moderate Abrahamic Religious Leaders

    Because once you have read the beautiful Blessing God gave Noah and his family and carefully consider the Everlasting covenant which is err......everlasting!! and understand what the covenant truly means you then get a nasty story about Noah and Canaan where all of a sudden Noah takes it upon...
  6. Lionel Refson

    Am I Wrong To Think That There Is A God, But Not Operating In This World

    Absolutely and that is the key ..........too many human influences and desires and dualities
  7. Lionel Refson

    Am I Wrong To Think That There Is A God, But Not Operating In This World

    Imo God does not operate on this world because we have freewill. It is important for this to be accepted, if ever that was possible in my view because it will stop all the reward/punishment duality that so many abrahamics operate under, a system which only creates misery, both directly and...
  8. Lionel Refson

    Am I Wrong To Think That There Is A God, But Not Operating In This World

    been all possibilities already ............now back to theist for the final time!
  9. Lionel Refson

    The god of this world

    According to this we are all becoming little devils ‘Horns’ Are Growing on Human Skulls Because of Phone Use, Scientists Say
  10. Lionel Refson

    Christianity: A Summary

    Absolutely, you said it far better than I did. The only way to sort out this quadlemma is through a actual proof, and we know that this time we do not have any, hence my remark that Jesus returning, would solve the quadlemma Apparently even Josephus cannot be trusted...
  11. Lionel Refson

    Am I Wrong To Think That There Is A God, But Not Operating In This World

    Not rubbish, just lazy innacuracy, so apologies. Iif you prefer , the Oral Torah was passed down orally in an unbroken chain from generation to generation until its contents were finally committed to writing following the destruction of the Second Temple in 70 CE, when Jewish civilization was...
  12. Lionel Refson

    Bringing Christianity into disrepute!

    Really? why? I'll meet you half way, child-like hreart with adult brain!
  13. Lionel Refson

    Christianity: A Summary

    What authority does CS Lewis and John Duncan have on the subject any more than Rabbi Hillel or any of the other great rabbis. The point is that which divides cannot be from God We have had 2000 years of this division and divisiveness . Until Jesus returns we can not answer your trilemma with...
  14. Lionel Refson

    Christianity: A Summary

    Given the choice I personally value the account of eg God's Blessing and Covenant in the OT over the new testament because the former is without human self-interest. We cannot be sure as to whether all the accounts of Jesus saying , or having said he was "the only begotten son are actually true...
  15. Lionel Refson

    The god of this world

    IMO There can not be any devil in the world and all evil is created by humanity as is all good . That is because God would never allow another force to hold any influence over God's children. God can do this because God can do anything. because we have freewill we choose to do evil things This...
  16. Lionel Refson

    Christianity: A Summary

    Jesus was a rabbi a very wise one and one that I love, a son of God as we all are . He gave you a real clue imo in how to find God ie in Matthew 18 2-4 You have to forget your rational mind and become like a child, naive, wondering etc. Then start at Genesis 1 and you will find what I did ie...
  17. Lionel Refson

    Bringing Christianity into disrepute!

    Perhaps the christian right-wingers here should take Jesus's advice in Matthew 18 2:4 and re-read the Bible like little children. Then God will be found . use naivety not intellect!
  18. Lionel Refson

    International Court of Moderate Abrahamic Religious Leaders

    Ok so can I suggest you take a look at this Am I Wrong To Think That There Is A God, But Not Operating In This World I actually am a lover of Jesus, but not as the son of God . One of the key things Jesus said was in Matthew 18 2-4 That is how you should read the Bible imo, as a christian with...
  19. Lionel Refson

    Should Society Ban The Abrahamic Religions And How?

    See my other threads Of course you are right. i was playing devil's advocate
  20. Lionel Refson

    Revising The Abrahamic Religions

    This is a big clue for christians imo Matthew 18:2-5 take the advice of these verses. read the Bible not with intellect but with the mind of a child ., naive, looking for God. jesus has been a light in my life, but he is not God Start at Gen 1 and then have a go at Am I Wrong To Think That...
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