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  1. Left Coast

    Osiris

    If you were truly concerned about the fate of your soul, I would imagine you wouldn't just restrict yourself to the words of a book, considered outside any broader context and with zero nuance. You're approaching the Bible like the most hardline Sola Scriptura Protestant Christian, imagining...
  2. Left Coast

    Osiris

    Not at all. The issue is the hyper-literal method you're taking of reading one verse and assuming that's supposed to tell you everything you need to know. I think we can drop the faux-concern about the fate of your soul. ;) The Qur'an is a whole other kettle of fish. Completely different...
  3. Left Coast

    Is July 4th evil

    And of course, there are a thousand ways we could better spend taxpayer money. It's weird that you pick the tiny amount spent on policing firecrackers once a year as your soapbox. Holiday celebrations aren't breaking anyone's budget. Your fundamental issue with holidays is theological. Your...
  4. Left Coast

    Is July 4th evil

    I don't know if you've studied the history of modern England but, um...things have changed slightly since the 1700s. ;)
  5. Left Coast

    Should Donald Trump be Sentenced to Jail for 34 Felonies?

    ***STAFF POST*** Ladies and Gentlemen and Everyone In Between, We do not accuse each other of lying around here. We will treat each other with respect and civilly disagree. Or we won't post. Are we understood? Carry on.
  6. Left Coast

    Is July 4th evil

    I thought you didn't want to argue? ;) And yes, that is freedom. Parties are loud. And people get hurt partying just like they get hurt driving and doing all kinds of things. People should be responsible. And people fighting and dying for the independence of our country from the British Empire...
  7. Left Coast

    Is July 4th evil

    I find objecting to celebrating holidays because they're loud to be rather silly. But you're right, there's no need to argue. I'll celebrate how I want and you don't have to. That's freedom. :)
  8. Left Coast

    Is July 4th evil

    People get into car accidents and die in them every single day. Yet in general, I presume you don't find driving safely immoral?
  9. Left Coast

    Osiris

    You're assuming that these texts were written for the average person to sit down and read them from beginning to end to "figure out" salvation all by themselves just from what the text says. That's not even what the text themselves say a person ought to do. Nor is it the intent of the texts. Nor...
  10. Left Coast

    Is July 4th evil

    There's no record of him using electric lights either, but I'm assuming you have no general problem doing that.
  11. Left Coast

    Osiris

    I disagree. One can also interpret the passage as describing a broad principle or norm, not an absolute. As a side note, that's also part of the "extended" part of Mark that is widely known not to be original to the text. But the point about interpretation stands regardless. See above. Again...
  12. Left Coast

    Conspiracy beliefs, underlying causes.

    I also see this from people who constantly blame their situations on "the oligarchy," "the elites," etc. Individual biases and political preferences will color the descriptions differently, but they're fruit from the same tree.
  13. Left Coast

    Conspiracy beliefs, underlying causes.

    One issue I see is that people infer conspiracy to situations when incompetence is more often the explanation. "MY DOCTOR DIDN'T SEND MY PRESCRIPTION IN ON TIME!! HE HATES ME AND JUST WANTS ME TO SUFFER!" When in reality, he didn't refill the prescription because he didn't see the request in...
  14. Left Coast

    Osiris

    Ah okay. So nothing to actually do with Osiris. I do agree that the case for Sola Fide, Biblically speaking, is weak. However, one thing I will say broadly is that it's a mistake, in my view, to expect every Bible verse that references salvation to provide an exhaustive summary of its...
  15. Left Coast

    Osiris

    This is a bit all over the place. What was it you wanted to debate, specifically?
  16. Left Coast

    Who hear thinks..........

    This is a common New Atheist caricature of people's understanding of the world from the past. You really don't think people hundreds of years ago knew people can't walk on water? Or that they couldn't accurately predict the Sun coming up each morning? They didn't always understand the why behind...
  17. Left Coast

    Louisiana becomes first state to require that Ten Commandments be displayed in public classrooms

    Yep, the Founders retained lots of holdovers from theocratic England when they founded this place. They also allowed slavery. So what?
  18. Left Coast

    Louisiana becomes first state to require that Ten Commandments be displayed in public classrooms

    Sadly, too many Americans have started to agree with you. Our Constitution is what makes our nation great. If you want theocracy, go elsewhere.
  19. Left Coast

    Louisiana becomes first state to require that Ten Commandments be displayed in public classrooms

    Confident ignorance is amazing, isn't it? What will the next apologetic be, do we think? a) Eh, it's a piece of paper, who cares? b) Eh, it'll get overturned by SCOTUS so no biggie. c) This is great! I'm glad they're teaching the kids history!
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