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  1. halbhh

    Racism in Scripture! Why do people deny it?

    Ah, but I'm pretty much quoting word for word paraphrases and summaries of actual passages. Just the text, accurately conveyed with more context. :) Here's one, from Philemon, about the slave to be free in all ways, and become now an equal family member, basically: "...the reason he was...
  2. halbhh

    Racism in Scripture! Why do people deny it?

    Ok, you have 3 significant topics here in 1 post, and they aren't small ones. But you included the one thing I've already answered very well here in this thread: why some were temporarily told to remain slaves for a time to help bring their masters to Christ, and then later told to 'seek their...
  3. halbhh

    Racism in Scripture! Why do people deny it?

    Not when you read it as a whole (read through it all). See my post 67 just above for what reading it as a whole entails. The Christians that caused the end of slavery (started the movement and grew the movement) were simply following the New Testament.
  4. halbhh

    Racism in Scripture! Why do people deny it?

    The Christians that helped end slavery were simply following the New Testament. Christian abolitionism Although many Enlightenment philosophers opposed slavery, it was Christian activists, attracted by strong religious elements, who initiated and organized an abolitionist movement. [1]...
  5. halbhh

    Racism in Scripture! Why do people deny it?

    If a person also reads in the common bible (new and old testament) they see a long slow struggle (the entirety of all the scripture really) to change human hearts. It's why Christ came -- for precisely that very reason, alone. To help us see our own wrongs, and to turn from them and seek God's...
  6. halbhh

    Racism in Scripture! Why do people deny it?

    Slavery is all around us even today. The only way to end it is to change hearts, one person at a time. That's why Christ came, to change hearts.
  7. halbhh

    Racism in Scripture! Why do people deny it?

    Deep topic, and it needs more than just a couple of sentences, but I'll edit to make it as brief as possible. Suppose God made a law like this one: "All the time, do for others what you'd have them do for you if you were in their situation, regardless of how convenient or hard that is, never...
  8. halbhh

    Racism in Scripture! Why do people deny it?

    I was adding some more to that same post there to lay out the big picture, and it directly addresses precisely what you are raising here, so instead of me posting it again, let me just ask you to look at that updated post.
  9. halbhh

    Racism in Scripture! Why do people deny it?

    Right. It's similar to the arguments where someone points out that the world has much evil in it (humans doing various evils) and then blames God for what people do. Anything evil: blame God. It's illogical, but this idea just reappears like a prolific weed now and then, even if you explain...
  10. halbhh

    Racism in Scripture! Why do people deny it?

    Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. (New Testament, the source of 'Christian-ity' of the particular kind that is about following Christ) We know (if we read what Christ said) that zero racists will make it into...
  11. halbhh

    Put God on trial!

    Reading through your post, a certain similar situation with Christ came to mind. Have you by chance read Matthew chapter 3 and 4? I ask because one of the situations that comes up is jumping off a tall height. That's in chapter 4, but the reason I mentioned chapter 3 is it in small part sets...
  12. halbhh

    Put God on trial!

    Some alienated anti-Christians have worked hard to try to paint odd interpretations of these verses to make it seem the way they'd prefer, and thus wrong. But you don't have to accept an anti-Christian interpretation of a Christian text, of course. Christ taught that only prayers with faith...
  13. halbhh

    Put God on trial!

    Well, one way to deal with challenges of life, the problems that come at one, is to learn the wisdom offered, and get the aid offered. Here's the best guide I know of, and I read very many from around the world, so that 'best' is the best among the hundreds of various thinkers/philosophers I...
  14. halbhh

    Put God on trial!

    Ok, I'd try to also (as you did) wish you 'good luck with that' except I know it won't be luck actually that determines a person's outcome, but what they choose, whether they choose the good, or prefer to stay in old wrongs they have preferred so far. Regardless of whether a person calls it...
  15. halbhh

    Put God on trial!

    It's not a luck thing, but instead more like I trust the expert, the famed teacher Jesus, who knows more about this stuff then you or me.
  16. halbhh

    Put God on trial!

    This life. This life has some finite certain (ideal) goals. .... We'd agree on that. Actually I addressed this in regard to the assumed question/attribute of time duration, but maybe it wasn't noticeable or seemed obscure. Notice the wording "age to come" and also what I mentioned just after...
  17. halbhh

    Put God on trial!

    Yes. :) Life wants to live I guess is one way of saying it. Music wants to happen and be heard. People want to enjoy a million different things, others, happenings/new states of being. And then do them again and again. New permutations, and so on. Even 100,000 or 1 million of this (type...
  18. halbhh

    Put God on trial!

    Time is an aspect of this current universe we live in, like gravity or magnetism: dependent and arising from this particular physics. It's not some absolute thing in itself that would exist in the same way in a different universe so far as I understand. Rather, this particular time we have...
  19. halbhh

    Put God on trial!

    You've asked a lot of questions, and usually I don't respond to 4, 5 questions, because it can get too lengthy and/or hard to follow so many threads. But I will pick out what may be the most interesting. After all, why not go in a different direction (better than a cul de sac type argument)...
  20. halbhh

    Put God on trial!

    2 things as background precepts: This is a temporary life, and God will save some into eternal life. But generally 100% of these mortal bodies we are in will die: "...remember you are dust, and to dust you will return" So, all these bodies will die, and then many will get new bodies that...
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