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  1. Papoon

    ISIS: THE ENEMY OF ISLAM

    Another strategic avoidance of a point you don't want to acknowledge. Lots of that in this thread. Goodnight for now :)
  2. Papoon

    ISIS: THE ENEMY OF ISLAM

    But fake WMDs, and the world's biggest army bombing Bhagdad back to the stone age was popular because...?
  3. Papoon

    ISIS: THE ENEMY OF ISLAM

    Masallah, crazy Arabs, LOL Let's all get hysterical, there's logic in the thread ! ;)
  4. Papoon

    ISIS: THE ENEMY OF ISLAM

    Good news everyone, governments are honest and never engage in conspiracy. History is all wrong. Phew, that was almost cause for concern ...
  5. Papoon

    ISIS: THE ENEMY OF ISLAM

    So, was the WMD justification for the Iraq war a conspiracy, or a simple honest mistake ?
  6. Papoon

    ISIS: THE ENEMY OF ISLAM

    Good way to avoid my direct question. How can ordinary people stop a secretly organised paramilitary which massively outguns them ? Try answering a sensible question rather than throwing around the 'conspiracy' word purely to discredit. Your meditation training should make you more mindful and...
  7. Papoon

    ISIS: THE ENEMY OF ISLAM

    That is disingenuous. I was clearly making the point that Israel is an abstraction, and asking whether it is the ground, the religion, the politics. My point was obvious, and you want to obscure that in an attempt to stereotype me. Indeed, ignorance is the enemy.
  8. Papoon

    ISIS: THE ENEMY OF ISLAM

    You can't see any reason ? I sure can. For example the government here in Australia use them as a way of taking people's minds off so many issues they would rather not discuss. And a reason to make some of the most Draconian legislation on the planet - arrest without charge or trial for example...
  9. Papoon

    ISIS: THE ENEMY OF ISLAM

    Also, that is a kind of reification. What is Israel ? A stretch of ground ? Judaism ? The Mossad ? I am not such a simplistic thinker.
  10. Papoon

    ISIS: THE ENEMY OF ISLAM

    You want me to come across as antisemitic ? I suppose that could be used to discredit my more general point. So, no, I'm not taking the bait.
  11. Papoon

    ISIS: THE ENEMY OF ISLAM

    Of course it is generalising. Exactly as the media and governments wish. Such generalisers are unwitting stooges IMO.
  12. Papoon

    ISIS: THE ENEMY OF ISLAM

    Look at the situation with the Kurdish women's army, recruited from ordinary village women. Not only do they receive no support, but governments label them terrorists ! So why don't people like yourself complain about that ? You should be supporting them. Do you ?
  13. Papoon

    ISIS: THE ENEMY OF ISLAM

    They are a paramilitary, with secret financiers and possibly the covert assistance of intelligence organisations. How do ordinary folk get a handle on that ? What do you suggest ?
  14. Papoon

    ISIS: THE ENEMY OF ISLAM

    I appreciate that you are posting material which demonstrates the disgust that good Muslim people feel for ISIS. The western world's media has certainly made ISIS powerful. And so have the governments. In the past, we have seen many examples of the creation of an enemy for the purpose of...
  15. Papoon

    Only one prophet at the time???

    If we accept that other cultures are no less enlightened than those of the middle east, then it would seem to be an impossibility that there are not many prophets at any time. Why would god ignore most of the human race ? And why would only those from the eastern Mediterranean seek and find ...
  16. Papoon

    Goats

    Laconic rock leaper right here. Never managed to chow down a tin can though.
  17. Papoon

    Any Questions?

    Who is your favorite fiction writer ? Or maybe top 3. Or five.
  18. Papoon

    Any Questions?

    That's the coolest Jimi Hendrix album Jimi never made ! And I think it was probably major inspiration for SRV.
  19. Papoon

    The hatred for shiites are ridiculous...

    Viewed from the standpoint of modern psychology, whole populations are subject to immersive conditioning 24/7. Anyone familiar with the work of Milgram and Zimbardo is well aware of how straightforward it is to manipulate peer pressure and dominance/subordinance behaviors in humans, who are...
  20. Papoon

    The hatred for shiites are ridiculous...

    Let's remember that the common folk of Iran are decent people under pressure from a theocracy. My Iranian friend and neighbor pointed out to me that most of the population are sick to death of being used as pawns by fanatics. In fact, he said 'most Iranian people have no interest in religion'...
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