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  1. VoidoftheSun

    spin offs

    Yes because Jesus/Yeshua/Joshua polemicizes against them in the four 'gospels'.
  2. VoidoftheSun

    spin offs

    And before then we had Essenes, Saducees and Pharasies, as well as Samaritans (who are still around), all of which who came out of older streams of tradition.
  3. VoidoftheSun

    spin offs

    Yeah I feel ya dude. Exoteric religion ain't my cup of tea either.
  4. VoidoftheSun

    spin offs

    And Judaism was itself a spin-off of the Canaanites (later incorporating elements of Zoroastrianism) with some elements of the Babylonians and Sumerians added in to give it flavor. Everything is a spin-off of something else or many other things.
  5. VoidoftheSun

    The illuminati?

    I don't believe in the Illuminati, I know they existed - from 1776 to 1787. Weishaupt wasn't perfect but he did have a lot of good ideas. Of course as usual, no conspiracy theorist has ever read anything he wrote. They were a controversial movement that did go around hijacking Masonic lodges...
  6. VoidoftheSun

    Hotels don't change sheets between guests even now

    Note to self: Avoid Helltels.
  7. VoidoftheSun

    Concerning the Islamic Conception of Jesus

    Well the two can't be even dreamed of being equated when one takes on all of the same assumptions, doctrines and baggage as the Evangelical Protestantism it is created from and propagated by (remember the people who created it are trying to make themselves the 'special ones' to fulfill...
  8. VoidoftheSun

    Concerning the Islamic Conception of Jesus

    It's very thick read but I definitely recommend checking out Robert Eisenman's "James The Brother Of Jesus", it's essential scholarship on that aspect of early pre-Christianity.
  9. VoidoftheSun

    Concerning the Islamic Conception of Jesus

    I really get the sense from what you say that you have not actually studied the Ebionites.
  10. VoidoftheSun

    Concerning the Islamic Conception of Jesus

    No resemblance. The "Messiahic Judaism" movement which started in the 1960s is just Evangelical Protestant Christianity playing dressup. There is nothing Jewish about it, nor is there anything "Early-Christian" about it either. It's wholly Evangelical inside and out.
  11. VoidoftheSun

    Concerning the Islamic Conception of Jesus

    Ace! Bullseye! With that :)
  12. VoidoftheSun

    Is the Muslim Jesus cited in the Qur'an possibly historical?

    That book is already tackled in sections of "The Qur'an and the Orientalists" and "In search of the Ali Ibn Abi Talib Codex" both of which are superb books, many other books have pulled apart that otherwise redundant book by pseudonym Luxenberg.
  13. VoidoftheSun

    Concerning the Islamic Conception of Jesus

    What makes you take these things literally?
  14. VoidoftheSun

    Michael Aquino's Passing

    I heard about this a few days. R.I.P. He was one of our modern day legends, a very fascinating guy with a fascinating LHP theistic system. Most will be increasingly grateful that Aquino got out his version/edition of the Satanic Bible before he passed. There was a bit of suspicion in the mists...
  15. VoidoftheSun

    Fulfillment of Prophecy in the New Testament

    Well Muhammad as the last of the Prophets is one obvious thing, which comes from Surah 33:40 and many Hadith from many figures from Muhammad himself to the Twelve Imams themselves. I think the situation is very different between The Bab and Baha'u'llah though. The Bab himself claimed to be The...
  16. VoidoftheSun

    Concerning the Islamic Conception of Jesus

    It's definitely so damn strange.
  17. VoidoftheSun

    Is the Muslim Jesus cited in the Qur'an possibly historical?

    You'll struggle trying to find any support of Khalid ibn al-Walid from us Shi'ites, all you'll find is condemnation and cursing of his name. Khalid b. al-Walid What the heck are you talking about? not lost to history at all, there are over 240 million Shi'ites worldwide. Twelvers (who I...
  18. VoidoftheSun

    Concerning the Islamic Conception of Jesus

    Probably because he caused a lot of political/social and religious disturbance, and some of the stuff (like the infamous John 6:54, was very 'out there' even by Pagan standards) But there are several other Yeshuas in the Bible, there is Yeshua son of Nun, Yeshua the High Priest and also Yeshua...
  19. VoidoftheSun

    Is the Muslim Jesus cited in the Qur'an possibly historical?

    If you knew anything about the Qur'an bro, you'd know that the only people threatened with such things are the Prophets themselves. According to the Qur'an, such behavior is "transgressing all bounds". One example of stoning in the Qur'an comes from the idolaters threatening Prophet Noah in...
  20. VoidoftheSun

    Concerning the Islamic Conception of Jesus

    Taken not literally though. The Qur'an calls Jesus the "word of God" but not in the Logos sense in John 1:1. All the Prophets have different titles. Muhammad is "Slave of God". Amir al-Momineen (Ali) is known as both "Friend of God" and "Lion of God" ('friend' bringing to mind the famous...
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