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  1. charlie sc

    Would you force someone to do something to save someone else?

    Indeed, but I'm unsure if it's even indirectly killing. If we were to rephrase and say if you removed yourself from it, is it still indirectly killing? All I've done here is move the words around but the scenario is still the same. Let's think of a more human scenario. Let's assume someone is...
  2. charlie sc

    Would you force someone to do something to save someone else?

    Thank you for sharing and it sounds like you have an interesting life. Consider, however, your perception of pregnancy and having children is quite unique. You seem to think it's a gift, but not everyone sees it that way. Not everyone will have your unique perspective of things. I understand...
  3. charlie sc

    Would you force someone to do something to save someone else?

    This is an interesting argument but I'm not sure how much it applies to pregnancy, fertilisation and sex. There are few problems with this argument, because the fetus is a potential person, not a person yet. There's also the rights of the female's body. However, I'd like to focus on killing vs...
  4. charlie sc

    Would you force someone to do something to save someone else?

    Ok, I don't know if that's true but I'll take it as true. However, that still does not change the fact that people will still have unsafe abortions if they're illegal and can't afford them nor does that change the fact that many females do not want to have a child, give birth or continue to be...
  5. charlie sc

    Would you force someone to do something to save someone else?

    Actually, there are. "According to WHO statistics, the risk rate for unsafe abortion is 1/270; according to other sources, unsafe abortion is responsible for at least 8% of maternal deaths. Worldwide, 48% of all induced abortions are unsafe. The British Medical Bulletin reported in 2003 that...
  6. charlie sc

    Would you force someone to do something to save someone else?

    Do you think the act of sex implies responsibility to a possible child and fetus?
  7. charlie sc

    Would you force someone to do something to save someone else?

    Yes, some do and some desire that responsibility. However, some don't and some did not plan for it and even took precautions to avoid this. Nevertheless, they may find they're pregnant at some point and refuse to take responsibility. Therefore, they'll want an abortion. According to you, they...
  8. charlie sc

    Would you force someone to do something to save someone else?

    There are other differences. Leeches don't portray human characteristics, but say, a kitten would. We are neurologically inclined to protect when we see features similar to ours. It's been a while but from what I recall, studies that measure brain activity in baby and certain pet behaviours...
  9. charlie sc

    Would you force someone to do something to save someone else?

    Sure.
  10. charlie sc

    Would you force someone to do something to save someone else?

    I think this example needs more detail, but I would say yes. At some point a parent will take responsibility for that child. I'd assume at birth. This responsibility has been ignored or rejected in this scenario. In the case of the leech and the falling arm scenario, there was no responsibility...
  11. charlie sc

    Would you force someone to do something to save someone else?

    lol, I think a fetus can be considered a parasite since it fits the definition perfectly. I could be wrong tho.
  12. charlie sc

    Would you force someone to do something to save someone else?

    I wouldn't call it killing and I don't see how you would either. You don't actually kill the leech and it cannot survive without you. You have no control over its physiology. You had to insert that you left it to die, which implies you gave yourself some kind of responsibility over it. However...
  13. charlie sc

    Would you force someone to do something to save someone else?

    You don't seem to understand. My OP is to understand how people reason. I can create another analogy if it hurts you so. There are a number of considerations for pro-life vs pro-choice. I'm going step by step. This particular point is about a being, whatever it is, that cannot survive by itself...
  14. charlie sc

    Would you force someone to do something to save someone else?

    Are you really killing the fetus if it cannot survive without you? In one of the posts I explained this fairly well. I'll create an analogy I don't particularly like but here: A leech attaches itself to you. If you remove it, it dies. If you leave it, it lives. Are you killing it by removing it...
  15. charlie sc

    Would you force someone to do something to save someone else?

    Thanks. Good to know your opinion on the subject.
  16. charlie sc

    Would you force someone to do something to save someone else?

    You didn't answer my question.
  17. charlie sc

    Everyone Who Claims Homosexuality is a Sin is Bisexual

    Ok but you aren't excluded or stopped from doing certain things. It sounds like your issue is more financially related. These aren't good analogies. Priests and nuns are usually revered and they choose their status as Christians. Are you telling me they don't have a choice? Shakers celibacy is...
  18. charlie sc

    Would you force someone to do something to save someone else?

    Hey Kilk1, ok, you're yes in specifics for the question. So let's be specific. Would you force a woman to stay pregnant for 9+- months in order to save the fetus?
  19. charlie sc

    Would you force someone to do something to save someone else?

    Pray tell, what are the rights of the fetus and do any of them supersede the right of the pregnant woman to control her own body?
  20. charlie sc

    Would you force someone to do something to save someone else?

    Nope. If someone answered no and then no, or yes and then yes, they wouldn’t be logically inconsistent = irrational. The OPs questions is about irrationality. If you don’t get it, it’s not my problem. Eh, you didn't understand my point. I'll create an analogy I don't particularly like but...
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