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    Why the difference?

    Someone made an interesting point to me on the weekend? He said that the God of the OT is different to the God of the NT. ie, OT says and Eye for and Eye and in the NT its 'Turn the other cheek'? He was vengeful in the OT but very loving in the NT? What do you think? What would you say if...
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    Hands up who believes in the Trinity!

    Just a side point on prayer....Matthew 6:7*(New Living Translation) 7"When you pray, don't babble on and on as people of other religions do. They think their prayers are answered only by repeating their words again and again. Anyhow, no, i'm not saying there are 3 God's. Infact i don't...
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    Hands up who believes in the Trinity!

    ok, do you wan't me to show you all the scriptures that show that they are not the same? it's a long list you know...by the way, please difine the word 'same'. what is your definition of it too? please difine equal too. thanks.
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    Did Jesus Ever Ask To Worship Him?

    actually, you'll find that Jesus never accepted the worship that belonged to his father. show me a scripture where Jesus was worshipped in that manner. i'm not talking about ones that say that 'every knee shall bend', as that is not worship...
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    Hands up who believes in the Trinity!

    Hi, sorry to butt in. I don't want to tar you all with the same brush, but i find that this is a problem with a lot of trinitarians, not all, but a lot. they don't seem to be familiar with the creeds. i agree with kathryn with what she says about the athanasian creed too. If one were to read...
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    Hands up who believes in the Trinity!

    Nope, as you are still not your wife or your child...or your hat.
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    Hands up who believes in the Trinity!

    i know what you're trying to say, but that is a clover! Not God. The teachings of the trinity state that there are three individual god's and then in the same sentence it says, 'yet not three gods, but one.' Eh, come again!? And that they are all equal. there is a scripture that says that God...
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    Hands up who believes in the Trinity!

    I read that before. Thing is tho, in a family, you have dad, mum, and child. one family, yes, but still individuals who are all different. and i still would have loads of questions based on that post, and lots of other scriptures that could be used.
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    Hands up who believes in the Trinity!

    I wanted this to be a poll, but wasn't clever enough to figure out how to set one up. anyhow, who believes in the Trinity? I'll start it off by saying 'I don't!'. I think it's the biggest load of rubbish that anyone can get by twisting scrpitures. i think it fills the bible with contradictions...
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    Did Jesus Ever Ask To Worship Him?

    No he didn't. he directed all the glory and worhip to his father. i don't believe he was God tho, and that's where alot of other people disagree. he even called his father his God. and it's clear from christs temptations after his baptism, when satan wanted an act of worship from him, that jesus...
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    What was Paul's inner struggle?

    I'd like to know what you think Paul's inner struggle was. In Romans 7:21-24 he describes the war he has against his sinful flesh and his members. What do you think his stuggle was? I've heard a few theories but would like to know yours. Thanks.
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    Pre Christian Christians?

    eh? that's like asking if there were pilots before aeroplanes were invented...
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    A question About The Archangel Michael and the book of Jude

    Good point well put. and thanks for getting this thread back on track.
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    A question About The Archangel Michael and the book of Jude

    Congratulations! you have confused me even more! No matter how much explaining and trying to put it in understandable terms, the teaching of the trinity is something that will never be understood. even those who believe it end up saying that they will never find out the true identity of God...
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    A question About The Archangel Michael and the book of Jude

    Hi, you see this is why i find it so hard to understand the trinity, as I can't see from the scriptures that they clearly teach it. it is very confusing, in light of the rest of the scriptures. you'd think something as important as God's identity would be clearly explained in the scriptures...
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    A question About The Archangel Michael and the book of Jude

    My question is, can someone be with someone and at the same time be that person? again, off topic...also, at John 17:3 it says 'And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.' think about that. really, really think. that would...
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    Were do we find Salvation today

    what are your thoughts on Matthew 7:22? ***21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22On that day many will say to me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your...
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    Were do we find Salvation today

    yeah, same point...what's your point?
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    A question About The Archangel Michael and the book of Jude

    Hi glasgowchick, I think you are getting a bit off topic. going into trinity a bit...anyhoo, as you asked May where it categorically stated that Michael is Jesus, i'd like to ask a similar question. show me where Jesus categorically says that he is God. and here's a thought. do you always...
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    Who is God of this world?

    Hi RIVEN, I'm not familiar with your religion. could you tell me which 'catergory' it falls into? ie, is it bible based etc. thanks.
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