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  1. e.r.m.

    Baptism as a public declaration and "spirit of Jezebel"

    No problem. Neither am I :) Thank you for helping me understand Temple recommend.
  2. e.r.m.

    Baptism as a public declaration and "spirit of Jezebel"

    Mormonism doesn't apply to my original post, as Mormons do not "claim" to only follow the Bible. If they were to believe in baptism as a public declaration or a spirit of Jezebel, and although I could be wrong I don't think that they do, they could easily just refer to one of their other three...
  3. e.r.m.

    Baptism as a public declaration and "spirit of Jezebel"

    Thank you. That's good. I wish more churches would practice more accountability with regard to how they treat family members. With that in mind, I will work on my reply to the temple recommend. Thank you.
  4. e.r.m.

    Baptism as a public declaration and "spirit of Jezebel"

    May I ask you to explain #5? Does it mean living as a good example before family? Or not participating in unapproved activities with family? Or something else? Thank you.
  5. e.r.m.

    Baptism as a public declaration and "spirit of Jezebel"

    Thank you. Will chew on this.
  6. e.r.m.

    Debate me on the trinity.

    Likewise, but I'm not interested in debating it.
  7. e.r.m.

    Baptism as a public declaration and "spirit of Jezebel"

    My greatest condolences on your losses, both your initial losses in 2004 and the losses of support you experienced afterward. I've worked in suicide prevention and am familiar with the impact of these things. I'm glad you had the Mormon support and sorry that their leaders withdrew their...
  8. e.r.m.

    Baptism as a public declaration and "spirit of Jezebel"

    Would you please elaborate?
  9. e.r.m.

    Baptism as a public declaration and "spirit of Jezebel"

    Thank you. I agree that it could be conditioning and herd instinct, and I also think church culture is powerful, but that might be the same as herd instinct. I'm not close enough to Mormonism to be familiar with "Temple Recommend". Is that a term deferring to church authority like Jehovah...
  10. e.r.m.

    Baptism as a public declaration and "spirit of Jezebel"

    Agreed. Yes, but we can't say that they're all con artists. But let's say these teachers are all con artists. I'm talking about the followers. What puts Bible students in such a state to accept a teaching based entirely on someone else's word, and it never occurs to them to ask for a scripture...
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    Baptism as a public declaration and "spirit of Jezebel"

    sooda and EllenBrown, Lol, agreed. You get what I'm saying though right? You see that these two completely skip over providing a scripture for their respective beliefs? But these beliefs have a following. I'm assuming that neither of you subscribe to these beliefs, for which I'm glad. What do...
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    Baptism as a public declaration and "spirit of Jezebel"

    Ok, what on earth do these two teachings have in common?, you may be asking. It's like trying to find the common denominator between King Arthur and anti-lock brakes. Yet I have found one. I have come across many false doctrines for which people have attempted to offer scriptures, although that...
  13. e.r.m.

    What is Anglican/Episcopal worship like?

    My apologies for not reading carefully. Thought I saw something about gay marriage. I am not too clear as to where I stand with trans. issues.
  14. e.r.m.

    What is Anglican/Episcopal worship like?

    LGBT is not a Catholic church issue, it's a Bible issue, as such many churches, if majority of them, deny gay marriages.
  15. e.r.m.

    The Last Supper Painting

    Good point.
  16. e.r.m.

    The Last Supper Painting

    I don't think that was his plan. I know the road to hell is paved with good intentions, but you got to give the guy a little credit. He was trying to make things better.
  17. e.r.m.

    The Last Supper Painting

    No church is perfect, but I think some are closer than others.
  18. e.r.m.

    The Last Supper Painting

    Luther, Zwingli, and Calvin were the top three. Zwingli freed (I think Geneva) from Catholic rule. Calvin later led a theocracy in that city.
  19. e.r.m.

    The Last Supper Painting

    metis, Agreed, historically speaking. I was reading an article on Huldrych Zwingli once and I misattributed a lot of what the author said, to Zwingli. Actually the way the author wrote it, on the second go-around I had to pay close attention to distinguish the two. I was taken aback at how many...
  20. e.r.m.

    The Last Supper Painting

    Yes, if one takes it for what it says, then He did know. If one takes the road of doubting what is written, then that's a different discussion for another thread.
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