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  1. Soapy

    Jesus is not God

    Really, and truly, ‘No beginning’ cannot mean ’Before’, since there cannot be a ‘Before’ a ‘No Beginning’.
  2. Soapy

    Jesus is not God

    So your GOD can be LIMITED, vulnerable, weak, ignorant, feeble, incapable, hungry, thirsty, tired, mutable, mortal? Hmmm… Sounds the exact definition of a Pagan God. This story of Elijah has a place in another discussion - but not here. And everything you stated here is called a METAPHOR...
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    Jesus is not God

    So GOD, who is three persons, and is PERFECTION and is IMMUTABLE, BECAME something that is IMPERFECT?… ONE PERSON of your three-person God became something LESS THAN PERFECTION?? AND yet GOD remained PERFECT and IMMUTABLE?! I don’t understand how PERFECTION and IMMUTABLE can BECOME something...
  4. Soapy

    Jesus is not God

    ‘God-man’… how do you justify that claim? If Jesus is GOD, how can he ALSO be MAN? So, tell me: Is Jesus LESS THAN GOD because Jesus is tainted with fallible flesh (‘see me, touch me, … I am flesh and bone’) Is Jesus GREATER THAN GOD exactly because Jesus is BOTH GOD AND MAN? And also: Is...
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    Jesus is not God

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    Jesus is not God

    I see that you cannot justify a three person GOD by reference to ONLY TWO OF THOSE PERSONS… A ONE PERSON GOD cannot be SEPARATED into three parts and then only spoken of AS ONE PERSON. It’s ALL THREE or NONE - which is why GOD IS ONE is only ever spoken as ONE: The Father; YAHWEH. That is a...
  7. Soapy

    Jesus is not God

    That was THOMAS’ misconception. It wasn’t scriptural. Point of fact, none of the other ten disciples agreed with Thomas by virtue of the fact that none of them exclaimed the same claim. In addition, Jesus TOLD Thomas, ‘Touch me and see that I am not a Spirit’…. GOD IS SPIRIT. Jesus told...
  8. Soapy

    Jesus is not God

    You’re toying with definitions to get away from the FACTS… I know that PEOPLE create Strawman [arguments]. My point was that the Strawman was created from YOUR MIND… therefore, in effect ‘YOU ARE WHAT YOU SAY’ therefore you are that Strawman you created… So, Perhaps you should remember that...
  9. Soapy

    Jesus is not God

    If you are sticking to ‘The thread is about Jesus’ why are you talking about The Father?? Gotcha!! The rest of your post is just, in my mind, a justification for your false belief. The first part about learner David is about the fact that expecting me to read other people’s posts that contain...
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    Jesus is not God

    I don’t care about what another poster says… learner Daniel doesn’t know what he’s talking about so what he says can hardly be support for your mistaken claims… My suggestion to you would be to lick your allies more carefully. You already supported an erroneous post from him earlier in this...
  11. Soapy

    Jesus is not God

    learner Daniel, to whom have you addressed your post?
  12. Soapy

    Jesus is not God

    Oh that’s interesting… so it is actually OESTE who is the ‘Strawman’, pretending that I AM the ‘strawman’! Thank you, learner Daniel… you made my day!!!
  13. Soapy

    Jesus is not God

    Are you. I believe, referring to your dispute with other posters…. I do not ‘misquote’ my verses so you must be talking about others who may actually misquote as, say, JW, ONENESS, BAHAI… etc… Yes, they, I believe, do misquote! You love your ‘Strawman’ thing… what is a ‘Strawman’? Every time I...
  14. Soapy

    Jesus is not God

    "is not for the dispensation of truth and Godliness" I believe strongly that the ‘not’ was a typo error…. It’s clear, and I believe you realise it as it would otherwise be pretty stupid!! What I’m saying is that you take scriptural discussion, imo, as amusement and a joke against those truly...
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    Jesus is not God

    (Indented text are your words) “I'm not seeing that in scripture.” “Of course not. The Father is God though” That’s so funny because you say you don’t see ‘the Father is God’ and you immediately follow that by agreeing that the Father IS GOD!!!????? “Exactly! Any other God but God is a false...
  16. Soapy

    Jesus is not God

    There is no other God BUT THE FATHER… I think that is what you meant to write. Also, scripture tells us there are ‘Other Gods’ in terms of ‘Those who CLAIM to be a God’. Therefore, to be emphatic, it is claimed by Jesus that: The Father is ‘the only TRUE God’
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    Jesus is not God

    All content below are ‘My Opinions backed up by Scriptural references where applicable’ regardless of how powerfully they are expressed: In all that you say above, you are wholly mistaken and have taken things out of context to suit the Will of him who commands and directs you… and you know...
  18. Soapy

    Jesus is not God

    “They are 3 men, ONE team just as the triune God is 3 persons, ONE God.” So, Oeste, I am just asking if you are saying that your Trinity ‘GOD’ is a ‘TEAM’… not a PERSON? Who is the team leader in your ‘God’ team?
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    Jesus is not God

    “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.” (Rev 1:8) My opinion is: I agree… This verse is certainly talking about The Father; Almighty God; YHWH… The term ‘Who is, was, and is to be’ absolutely means ‘Eternally - Always Being -...
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    Jesus is not God

    ‘O God’ does not mean ‘Almighty God’. It means “O MIGHTY ONE”. Anyone can be ‘God’ in [context]: ‘The presiding Judge is GOD [of his courtroom]’ ‘The Commander of the mighty army is GOD [of the battle field]’ ‘The mighty Lion is GOD [of the grasslands]’ In Hebrews 1:8 you will see that the...
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