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    By the way -- if you claim to be a Christian...

    As I go through your response I wil be looking for your known fact which renders one of the 31 verses in Gen. 1 unquestionably false. So far I don't see it. Do you mean that something like the DNA molecule arose over a tremendously long period of lucky accidents? If that is the...
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    End of Suffering

    You mean with absolute certainty you know the "tale" of God bringing death and suffering to an end is not true? If you know this to be a lie how do you know it? I didn't deny the necessity of suffering. I said it will have a conclusion after its work has been used by God to assist in...
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    By the way -- if you claim to be a Christian...

    Of course there is some poetic like utterances in Genesis chapters 1,2. I would not argue with that as I do not take it as an exhaustive scientific explanation of how God created the world. But let me check with you then. There are 31 verses in Genesis chapter one. Could you tell me which...
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    The story of the Bible is a journey, from the garden, back to the garden, with a twist.

    The first two chapters of the 66 books of the Bible and the last two chapters are like bookends. They reflect each other. Teage says the return to the garden with a twist is what is conveyed. I would agree but say the return + more is seen. The garden is enlarged to a city. The river with...
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    By the way -- if you claim to be a Christian...

    I read the Bible at face value. What is conveyed as history I read as history. What is conveyed as parable I take as parable. What is conveyed as poetry I regard as poetry. I take prophecy as prophecy, wise sayings as wise sayings, etc. The writer of the letter of Hebrews says God spoke to the...
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    The story of the Bible is a journey, from the garden, back to the garden, with a twist.

    "To every problem with N solutions there are N+1 unknowns" ( source ? )
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    By the way -- if you claim to be a Christian...

    Just the part of the Bible from Genesis 1:1 through to Revelation 22:21 I believe is truth.
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    End of Suffering

    I do not believe no suffering = no human beings. The testimony of the resurrected Christ is my evidence that one conquerored torment, suffering, both from man and from God WITH death itself. So we have one from history as a garuantee that death with all its byproducts to man is overcome by the...
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    How can YHWH be the FATHER?

    Some of your analysis seems to normalize what was apostasy on the part of Israel. You seem to argue that their degradation into having many gods was the normal faith of Israel. This however should be seen as their abnormal backsliding into the customs of the nations. Comment on these...
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    How can YHWH be the FATHER?

    How do you feel about God appearing to Abraham with two other men (angels) to have lunch with the patriarch in Genesis 18,19? And Jehovah appeared to him by the oaks of Mamre as he was sitting at the entrance of his tent in the heat of the day. And he lifted up his eyes and looked, and there...
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    End of Suffering

    The entrance of suffering into the universe came about because of the emmerging of a will besides the will of God. Though this has been a very long epoch of suffering it is temporary for all who are brought again back to the one will of God. God is able to engineer all things in the universe...
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    How can YHWH be the FATHER?

    Come back Shane! Now lets look at this. Would you want me to call the Bible unholy ? "The unholy Bible" - you like the sound of that better? Okay, the Bible says God alone is holy. . . . For You alone are holy; . . . (Rev. 15:4) God alone is intrinsically holy aside from all other things in...
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    End of Suffering

    Monkeyfire asked. So "Neither" seems the clearest answer to the one question. Thanks.
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    Judgment Day Quran vs Bible

    As a Christian I see more than one judgment. So I would ask which one you would like me to speak to. There is a judgment seat of Christ for all those who have eternal redemption. There is a judgment of nations that are alive to pass through the last 3.5 years of this age - the great...
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    End of Suffering

    No you would not hate it? Or No you would not help it? Then Next.
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    How can YHWH be the FATHER?

    The way I learned it was the books were not defined as authoritative but recognized as such. A quip you have probably heard - "The canon is not an authoritative list of writings but a list of authoritative writings." As I learned this matter the process of the saints of God recognizing...
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    How can YHWH be the FATHER?

    Polycarp's paragraph saying that not only Christ was raised but that we "us" also sounds very much like Ephesians and Colossians. If therefore you were raised together with Christ, seek the things which are above, where Christ is, sitting at the right hand of God. (Col. 3:1) And...
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    How can YHWH be the FATHER?

    Could you list for me your two most significant things about Jesus of Nazareth that you learned outside of the Bible? I expect that you will not quote a church father as he himself quotes any part of the NT canonical books. Don't come back with a quotation from a church father which is him...
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    How can YHWH be the FATHER?

    When we come to the Scripture we should come to Christ simultaneously - to touch Christ, to fellowship with Christ, and to find Christ in its pages. The religionists searched the Scriptures but would not come to the living one to whom the Scriptures point and lead. You search the Scriptures...
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    How can YHWH be the FATHER?

    But they did seek to kill Him. And He walked right into thier plot full knowing what His fate was to be. Am I right? Behold, we are going up to Jerusalem, and the Son of Man will be delivered to the chief priests and scribes. And they will condemn Him to death And deliver Him to the Gentiles...
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