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2024 Presidential Candidates

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
He beat the ***es off the Republicans in the most recent negotiations. No doubt, you'll ascribe that to Satanic interference.

Honestly, I think I've had enough of you. You are desperate for your viewpoint to be affirmed -- so desperate you cannot and will not look at any actual evidence that doesn't do that for you. Your's is not a approach to dialogue that I find myself interested in pursuing. Bye bye.
Those are things we're supposed to feel but not say.
91.5% of posters here are deluded dangerous disturbing fools IMO.
But I zip it.
What you observe on RF is me making nice.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
What resources...opium, sand, rocks, religious nutcases?

You could have addressed the (easily refutable) point without denigrating an entire country in the process based on its worst struggles and issues.

Remember that many Afghans don't like the Taliban any more than you and I do.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
You could have addressed the (easily refutable) point without denigrating an entire country in the process based on its worst struggles and issues.
You're no fun.
The other poster & I understand mirthful hyperbole.
I even held back some really insulting stereotypes.

Note however that Afghanistan is actually rich in minerals.
But USA dind't profit from anything over there.
Just poured money, lives, & credibility into a sinkhole.

Remember that many Afghans don't like the Taliban any more than you and I do.
Of course.
Too bad they're weren't willing enuf to give'm the boot.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
You're no fun.
The other poster & I understand mirthful hyperbole.
I even held back some really insulting stereotypes.

Note however that Afghanistan is actually rich in minerals.
But USA dind't profit from anything over there.
Just poured money, lives, & credibility into a sinkhole.

Yep, and the global image of the US didn't exactly benefit either.

Of course.
Too bad they're weren't willing enuf to give'm the boot.

Willingness doesn't necessarily imply having the means to do so. The possibility of being shot (or worse) by a radical, armed group as an unarmed civilian would understandably deter most people.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Yep, and the global image of the US didn't exactly benefit either
I included that in "credibility".
Willingness doesn't necessarily imply having the means to do so.
You speak of a general possibility.
What do you actually believe?
I saw a difference in will, ie, the Taliban were more motivated.
This article comports with my view of that debacle....
 

Sand Dancer

Currently catless
I think if Trump were to become president again (I say "become president" because I don't see a scenario where he could win a fair election, but could win with help by republicans in some states) that it would be the end of democracy, much like what putin did in Russia to make himself permanent president. Look what his power has led him to decide, invading Ukraine, and threatening other nations.

The other republicans are as bad, or worse, policy wise, but I don't see them having the personality or motive to destroy democracy like Trump does.
How is Trump different from the other candidates in the ability to destroy democracy? I see all of them as at least willing to put forth a theocracy. I don't think Trump would do that. He panders, but he is not a true believer; the others are. They unabashedly want Christianity to be the only religion taught and joined with the government.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
I spoke of the populace as a whole, eg, civilians, government, military.

Then you were overgeneralizing.

You don't know what it's like to live under a violent dictatorship—and thankfully so. I think it's better not to be so quick to judge those who are in such a situation.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
I spoke of the country.
You tried to limit discussion to unarmed civilians.
That would be to miss significant factors in why
the Afghan government fell to the Taliban.

The country is mostly made up of the unarmed civilians. They're not the loudest or most powerful, but they're still the majority. Generalizations about the country include them.

Continuing with deflection from my theme, eh.
I'm not going to cooperate.

See above.
 
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