It had a military.
And civilians can take up arms, eg, Ukraine fighting off Russia.
If you're arguing that beating the Taliban was
hopeless, we should agree to disagree, &
stop derailing this thread.
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2024 Presidential Candidates
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And civilians can take up arms, eg, Ukraine fighting off Russia.
If you're arguing that beating the Taliban was
hopeless, we should agree to disagree, &
stop derailing this thread.
Different countries and situations.
Not hopeless; just too difficult for the average civilian. The army is a different story.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
911.
Bush specifically said we will go after the terrorists and the countries that harbor them.
Now Biden and Democrats empowers and emboldens them.
We Never Know
No Slack
Here is a run down of the 2024 candidates and their current age.
In a way I lean toward Pence being he defied Trump by not doing do what Trump wanted him to do.
I know nothing about Williamson or half of the Repub candidates.
Who do you favor and why?
Joe Biden, 80 -democrat
Robert F. Kennedy Jr, 69 -democrat
Marianne Williamson, 70 -democrat
Donald Trump, 76 -republican
Ron DeSantis, 44 -republican
Mike Pence, 64 -republican
Nikki Haley, 51 -republican
Doug Burgum, 66 -republican
Vivek Ramaswamy, 37 -republican
Chris Christie, 60 -republican
Larry Elder, 71 -republican
Asa Hutchinson, 72 -republican
Tim Scott, 57 -republican
Perry Johnson, 75 -republican
Steve Laffey, 61 -republican
Cornel West, 70 -third party
Who's running for president in 2024 and who has dropped out
Who is running for president in 2024? Here's a list of every candidate who has confirmed, including Biden, Trump and DeSantis, and who has dropped out so farabcnews.go.com
Has anyone else noticed the big ups and downs in registered voters every 2 years since 2004?
I'm courious on how big the jump will be in 2024.
Number of registered voters U.S. 2022 | Statista
In 2022, there were 161.42 million people registered to vote in the United States.
www.statista.com
Exaltist Ethan
Bridging the Gap Between Believers and Skeptics
I always took Chris Christie to be a genuine person. I did not know he was 60, but if he survives until the Wisconsin primary I will be voting for him.
Copernicus
Industrial Strength Linguist
That very much depends on how badly the leading candidates scare the population enough to motivate new people to register just to vote against the candidate the most fear or dislike. Polarization seems to be the driving factor in our politics these days, so people are more likely to vote against the other side's candidate than for their side's. It looks to me like Biden could easily beat Trump, but it is far from clear that Trump will manage to get the Republican nomination by the time November 2024 rolls around. Biden is really banking on having a rematch with Donald Trump, and it doesn't look like the Democrats have a plan B if Trump isn't the candidate. They could easily lose the House, the Senate, and the presidency, if Republicans manage to put out a fresh new candidate that many voters, who aren't political junkies, are becoming aware of for the first time. Too many Americans tend to ignore policy politics and focus on personality traits when voting for someone.
Other candidates (apart from Christie) are afraid of Trump and his popularity. And it is his popularity among conservative voters, who attacked the Capitol for him on Jan 6 2021. Despite his legal woes growing his popularity is not waning, as would be expected by rational citizens. His base is a dangerous group and I think some of them are capable of extreme violence if he called them to.
‘We Need to Start Killing’: Trump’s Far-Right Supporters Are Threatening Civil War
Within minutes of Trump’s indictment, supporters lit up social media platforms with violent threats and calls for civil war.
www.vice.com
GOP lawmaker’s tweet seemingly calls for ‘war’ after Trump indictment
A bestselling author on the US militia movement said the congressman may have been calling on supporters to ‘prepare for war’
There are serious reactions to the indictment by citizens and representatives alike. This sort of allegiance only applies to Trump and no other republican candidate. Even DeSantis is not very poplular despite his policies, and I suspect that is because he is bland and too administrative. Trump knows how to exploit people and their emotions like no other republican.
They don't need a theocracy, all they need is a supreme court that will rule in favor of evangelicals. That way Christian values can be instilled in law without it being overtly religious. Conservatives have learned how to push religious agendas without religious language.
He already did that by nominating three SC justices that were picked by the far right, and their rulings are reflecting what the religious right wants.
They are working their way towards that, but the republicans know they have to craft religious values in non-religious ways to not appear to violate the constitution. That's why Gingrich was smart in the 90's to work towards taking over states and gerrymandering because those state laws can be passed once they republicans have control over government. Look at DeSantis in Florida. They gerrymandered the state so that republicans have 22 representatives versus 7 for democrats even through the state is only a slight majority republican. Many otehr red states are similar, with gerrymandered districts so extremely biased that democrats will never be able to compete and represent citizens. They then can gerrymander federal districts to get a majority in the US House. With voting laws that limit access to voting by citiuzens more likely to vote democrat states can manipulate results, and try to help republicans win.
They don't care about religion, they care about attaining power, and then run rough shod over citizen rights, voting, public safety, immigration violations, etc.
As I noted, on the republican side I think the only one that would not go this far would be Chris Christie, as he seems to most rational of the bunch.
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Of course he would, if that was the thing that allowed his to have and keep power. It doesn't matter that he is not a true believer. Remember Saddam Hussein? He was not a particularly devote believer either.
If Trump concludes that religious bigotry is his path to power, that is what he will do.
I can see how more people in state election boards could commit fraud for Trump versus any other candidate. I think there is a risk with Trump being the nominee, as he did not lose by that much in 2020. A lot of people gambled committing crimes for Trump because they would not have been charged if he won. I don't trust the far right in any way, and they seem so nuts that they could do anything regardless of the consequences. I have a lot of anxiety about the 2024 election, and I do think things could be worse than 2020.
We Never Know
No Slack
The average age of the Congress is 58 years.
The average age of the Senate is 64 years.
The average age of the House of Representatives is 57 years
Age of Members of 118th Congress (& Averages)
Looking for the age of every member of the 118th Congress? Get FiscalNote's report on the age of Congress, including the oldest, youngest, and interesting finds from the data!
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We Never Know
No Slack
What country(s) would give Afganistan billions?
I think we are around giving $37 billion to Ukraine.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
‘We Need to Start Killing’: Trump’s Far-Right Supporters Are Threatening Civil War
Within minutes of Trump’s indictment, supporters lit up social media platforms with violent threats and calls for civil war.
GOP lawmaker’s tweet seemingly calls for ‘war’ after Trump indictment
A bestselling author on the US militia movement said the congressman may have been calling on supporters to ‘prepare for war’www.independent.co.uk
We Never Know
No Slack
Other candidates (apart from Christie) are afraid of Trump and his popularity. And it is his popularity among conservative voters, who attacked the Capitol for him on Jan 6 2021. Despite his legal woes growing his popularity is not waning, as would be expected by rational citizens. His base is a dangerous group and I think some of them are capable of extreme violence if he called them to.
‘We Need to Start Killing’: Trump’s Far-Right Supporters Are Threatening Civil War
Within minutes of Trump’s indictment, supporters lit up social media platforms with violent threats and calls for civil war.
GOP lawmaker’s tweet seemingly calls for ‘war’ after Trump indictment
A bestselling author on the US militia movement said the congressman may have been calling on supporters to ‘prepare for war’
There are serious reactions to the indictment by citizens and representatives alike. This sort of allegiance only applies to Trump and no other republican candidate. Even DeSantis is not very poplular despite his policies, and I suspect that is because he is bland and too administrative. Trump knows how to exploit people and their emotions like no other republican.
They don't need a theocracy, all they need is a supreme court that will rule in favor of evangelicals. That way Christian values can be instilled in law without it being overtly religious. Conservatives have learned how to push religious agendas without religious language.
He already did that by nominating three SC justices that were picked by the far right, and their rulings are reflecting what the religious right wants.
They are working their way towards that, but the republicans know they have to craft religious values in non-religious ways to not appear to violate the constitution. That's why Gingrich was smart in the 90's to work towards taking over states and gerrymandering because those state laws can be passed once they republicans have control over government. Look at DeSantis in Florida. They gerrymandered the state so that republicans have 22 representatives versus 7 for democrats even through the state is only a slight majority republican. Many otehr red states are similar, with gerrymandered districts so extremely biased that democrats will never be able to compete and represent citizens. They then can gerrymander federal districts to get a majority in the US House. With voting laws that limit access to voting by citiuzens more likely to vote democrat states can manipulate results, and try to help republicans win.
They don't care about religion, they care about attaining power, and then run rough shod over citizen rights, voting, public safety, immigration violations, etc.
As I noted, on the republican side I think the only one that would not go this far would be Chris Christie, as he seems to most rational of the bunch.
But like Hunter isn't Joe, those people aren't Trump.
I wonder if the MAGA minority have read the indictment or even if they can even read at all,the orange baby is going down and “no brains grifter “ he is,his greatest acheiment is doing it himself (insert applause),I’m sure more will go down with him.
We Never Know
No Slack
It tells me many don't give a crap about midterm elections.
What has astounding to me from the beginning is not so much Trump being a sex pest (no shock there),fraudster and all round jerk is his supporters,what must it be like to have one as a neighbour,they could be shown an elephant and call it a donkey,give them a box of cornflakes and call it a jigsaw and they will see their life out trying to put it together.
Completely irrelevant.
I haven't read the indictment myself, but I did watch legal experts read excerpts and explain what they mean. I doubt right wing media will offer the same service to their viewers and instead spew disinformation and deceptive rhetoric.
I read it,it’s very damning and the worst of it from the horses mouth,very well put together and an easy read,I agree though that the MAGA crowd will get the same info.
There are fewer Trump flags than there were two years ago. But polls show us that the conservtive voter still supports him. I suspect the support will be private due to the negative news about him. I have family members that support Trump but they don't say a word. My guess is they know they have no credible defense for their beliefs. I live in a city, but in rural America there is less shame in supporting him.
I just heard that Trump is having a political rally in Georgia within the next hour, so surely he will have comments (lies) about the indictments.
I’m watching it,I’m already flabbergasted!