A Bunch of Reasons Why I Question Noah's Flood Story:

[robocop (actually)]

So morals change? Why?

Doesn't;t that open the door to any human insisting they have the newest version of morality? Look at suicide bombers exploiting this loophole. Can you say they are wrong? Maybe they are doing God's will and you are living with obsolete morals, possible?

God gives us prophets so we know what we need to focus on in our time and situation. If we hold to them we are more guided. Our head prophet, besides Jesus Christ, is Russel M. Nelson.

 

[robocop (actually)]

By the way I should ask, why don't we live by 2200 year values?

We don't comprehend them and we're not ready for them.

 

[robocop (actually)]

Seems like if Yahweh knew slavery was bad, it would have maybe been one of the Commandments or something.

We don't live by year 2200 values because we don't know what they are and we aren't ready.

 

[SkepticThinker]

And lets not forget what Yahweh does to fetuses and children whose parents do not worship Him anymore....

Hosea 13:16

Dashed in pieces, eh? Sounds great. So very moral.

 

[SkepticThinker]

It depends on how many believe it.

What does?

 

[SkepticThinker]

Not at all. He doesn't punish people for not believing in the flood but the story teaches morality.

How does the flood story teach morality?
What's moral about murdering almost everyone on the planet?

 

[SkepticThinker]

When people can believe some things can be done by God, they are not being lied to if they think something wasn't done by God. They simply didn't consider it.

Then maybe they aren't all that convincing?

 

[robocop (actually)]

What does?

Whether something was insane.

 

[robocop (actually)]

How does the flood story teach morality?
What's moral about murdering almost everyone on the planet?

Humanity was set to destroy itself anyway or be corrupt forever.

 

[SkepticThinker]

You don't give people 2021 morals in 600 bc.

Why not?
Do morals change?

 

[robocop (actually)]

Then maybe they aren't all that convincing?

Miracles cease among nonbelievers.

 

[robocop (actually)]

Why not?
Do morals change?

People change, not God. Slaves were supposed to be treated very well. We still have slavery when someone has to take a job.

 

[tas8831]

Dashed in pieces, eh? Sounds great. So very moral.

Do as God says, not as God does.

 

[SkepticThinker]

If you keep the commandments and try to understand God instead of judging, I think you will be better off.
Slaves were supposed to be treated well.

Why would I keep commandments from a God whom I find to be immoral?

I don't care if "slaves were supposed to be treated well," they were still human beings owned as property. That's immoral. Also, where does it actually say "slaves were supposed to be treated well?" Because apparently, the Bible also says you can beat your slaves as long as they don't die within a few days. Do you think that's moral or an example of slaves being treated well? Also, said slaves were to be taken from the "heathens around you." Do you think that's moral too?

Why do you believe these immoral things are moral? Because the Bible says so? Where is your moral compass?

Genocide because humanity was destroying itself anyway.

The same humanity that God created? Do you think it's moral for a parent to kill their child because the child was "destroying itself anyway?"

 

[SkepticThinker]

Miracles cease among nonbelievers.

What a convenient cop out.

 

[SkepticThinker]

People change, not God. Slaves were supposed to be treated very well. We still have slavery when someone has to take a job.

Actually, your God's morals change, as you just acknowledged.
Could you answer the question in light of that please?

Being employed is not slavery in any sense of the word. My employer does not own me as property, nor does anyone else's.
That's an equivocation fallacy.

 

[robocop (actually)]

Why would I keep commandments from a God whom I find to be immoral?

I don't care if "slaves were supposed to be treated well," they were still human beings owned as property. That's immoral. Also, where does it actually say "slaves were supposed to be treated well?" Because apparently, the Bible also says you can beat your slaves as long as they don't die within a few days. Do you think that's moral or an example of slaves being treated well? Also, said slaves were to be taken from the "heathens around you." Do you think that's moral too?

Why do you believe these immoral things are moral? Because the Bible says so? Where is your moral compass?


The same humanity that God created? Do you think it's moral for a parent to kill their child because the child was "destroying itself anyway?"

For now, just worry about your own morality and not God's.

 

[robocop (actually)]

What a convenient cop out.

Miracles occur among believers.

 

[robocop (actually)]

Actually, your God's morals change, as you just acknowledged.
Could you answer the question in light of that please?

Being employed is not slavery in any sense of the word. My employer does not own me as property, nor does anyone else's.
That's an equivocation fallacy.

People were always commanded to love each other.

 

[SkepticThinker]

For now, just worry about your own morality and not God's.

I'm not concerned about my own morality. I have a moral compass.

I'm concerned about people who espouse Biblical morality because they believe it comes from some God.

We're talking about God's supposed morality here. The morality you say you, and everyone should follow. Or should I say, immorality.