If there is nothing there can't be an invisible silent world either. When we say nothing we don't mean no thing like no laptop but don't include invisible silent worlds. We mean literally nothing.
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A Universe from Nothing?
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Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
Consciousness clearly exists, and talking about nothing is silly. Unsubstantiated claims about the universe being conscious are also silly, it is just new-age dogma. And the claim that the big bang was an "event in consciousness" is really just a new-age creation myth - all religions have them.
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Thief
Rogue Theologian
I for one do not think of God as human
may the Force
be with you
in spite of your 'self'
gnostic
The Lost One
And I have told you that nothing in that silly YouTube reveal any evidence that the universe is consciousness. I am not in denial, I just think that you are delusional and seeing things that not there.
The video talk of nothing of the universe.
It only talk of nonlocality communication from one person to another, nothing about the universe. Our communication, whether it be local or non-local don't affect the universe.
Unless you have evidences that the universe receive the communication, or communicate back, you are simply projecting your superstition the universe is conscious.
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
Perhaps not, but it is common for people to project human qualities onto God. In this case a human quality ( consciousness ) is being projected onto the universe.
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
Don't you find it more than a bit odd that this groundbreaking "proof", as you call it, has not resulted in the bestowing of a Nobel Prize? It's a pretty large leap in scientific understanding... ...but remains ignored by all but a few EweToob fanatics. Jus' sayin'....
Thief
Rogue Theologian
consciousness is human only?
godnotgod
Thou art That
Take note that it was 1994 when this experiment was done.
You imply that it was on the edge, and that is what the 'established' science community thought about it. Just goes to show you that ignorance permeates even the scientific mind, which today continues to cling to the dead materialist paradigm even in light of Quantum Physics.
Don't forget that even the great Einstein called Aspect's entangled photons 'spooky action at a distance'.
godnotgod
Thou art That
The experiment proves that brains are capable of nonlocal communication. IOW, communication outside of brains. What lies outside of brains?
godnotgod
Thou art That
...which means that which is silent and invisible. Pure Consciousness, or Pure Abstract Intelligence, or The Absolute, or The Changeless, etc is just another phrase for Spirit. It's nature is No-thing-ness, and out of it, comes Every-thing.
Consciousness cannot be measured, seen, heard, smelled, touched, or tasted. It is no-thing, silent and invisible. Spirit is no-thing. It is not of the world of 'things' as we know them, and yet is the source of all things.
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Between brains.
godnotgod
Thou art That
Duh! 'between' implies 'outside of'.
Duh! Everything takes place inside the two brains.
gnostic
The Lost One
Which again, has nothing to with the universe bring bloody conscious.
It is staggering that you keep overlooking what that bloody video say, are not related to what you claiming about the universe being conscious.
People communicating, has no bearing at all, or have any effect on the universe. You are turning your tiny religion into something as big as the universe, just shows only how big a ego you have. For someone who follow the Chan and zen, you are so full of yourself.
gnostic
The Lost One
Gee, how I hate it when people claim "Pure" this, or "Absolute" that, as if it this tactics can win every arguments. Well, it doesn't win anything.
It just meaningless words, without any real justification, other than to inflates one's already enormous ego and flair for the dramatics.
It still doesn't prove that the universe is conscious, one way or the other.
ak.yonathan
Active Member
Quantum mechanics does not invalidate materialism. Just because particles dissolve into probability waves when not observed does not at all disprove materialism, since that is just an interpretation not a description of what actually happens. Quantum mechanics in no way says that the mind exists or that material objects don't. At best it is saying that our logic is faulty.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
trick question?
Thief
Rogue Theologian
so...if you are conscious .....you are blind and mute
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
Another load of your ill-defined new-age jargon, a series of Pretentious Proper Nouns cobbled together to make unintelligible word salad, a horrible tautological mess.
You haven't provided a shred of evidence for your new-age beliefs that the universe is conscious or that consciousness is the source of all things, or whatever.
You are preaching a sort of pseudo-Hinduism, you might as well just convert to Hinduism and have done with it.
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