Ben Dhyan
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If you want to see it that way...fine...it is simply what is....
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A Universe from Nothing?
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Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
"What is" is always an experience and therefore always subjective.
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
Is that what Zarathustra said? Or the space alien in dunkin donuts?
Ben Dhyan
Veteran Member
I am not talking about human perceptions, experiences, beliefs, ideas, etc., of what is...but reality complete as it is...
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
You are ( I hope ) a human, so human experiences are the only thing you CAN talk about it.
"Complete reality" is an abstraction, an idea. Our limited senses and intellect mean that we will only ever be able to experience a small fraction of this hypothetical "complete reality".
Ben Dhyan
Veteran Member
That's precisely the point....truth exists...but is beyond apprehension by humans....
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
"Truth" is another abstraction, and also a philosophical can of worms.
We can only really talk about "known" and "unknown", and even "known" is problematic.
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Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
"Source" and "nothingness" are just ideas, and not even very useful ones.
Better to marvel at the night sky and feel the wind on your face.
Ben Dhyan
Veteran Member
...and in a whiff of time this body's seeing and feeling is extinguished....and you think that is what the universe is all about.. The stars are produced for the wonderment of Ricky.....
my friend Rick,
You're forgetting the tiny little pieces that aren't there yet,
and the 'source' cannot be the 'nothingness',
that we haven't even found yet.
But the breeze does feel nice on my brow,
and the tickle of surf at my toes.
Oceans in every shell, nothingness nowhere,
I think the shells are the 'source',
of my pleasure anyway.
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'mud
You're forgetting the tiny little pieces that aren't there yet,
and the 'source' cannot be the 'nothingness',
that we haven't even found yet.
But the breeze does feel nice on my brow,
and the tickle of surf at my toes.
Oceans in every shell, nothingness nowhere,
I think the shells are the 'source',
of my pleasure anyway.
~
'mud
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
...and in a whiff of time this body's seeing and feeling is extinguished....and you think that is what the universe is all about.. The stars are produced for the wonderment of Ricky.....
You are welcome to your Sunday-school fantasies. I will continue to enjoy the sense of wonder and discovery.
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
There is always more to discover, and conversely less to believe.
No clue what you are talking about.
hey Aup,
Well, what I do understand about the Religion,
there are way too many idols and pseudo 'Gods'.
I kind of understand 'Nirvana',
the end of cognizant awareness,
the peace at the end of one's discoveries,
the satisfaction for having gotten to this point,
the loss of fear about what will follow.
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Life is the 'cause', Stuff is the effect, like a nest of down into infinity.
I will certainly miss the gnosis I sense, and the knowledge I will loose.
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But with all that glob and knowledge lack, I might drop in,
or have I ?
~
Never understand those DIRs.......exception of reality there,
but I guess that's 'religion'.........trying to find Nirvana.
~
Going on I am, and all this from 'nothing' sans 'ness'
~
NuffStuff
'mud
Well, what I do understand about the Religion,
there are way too many idols and pseudo 'Gods'.
I kind of understand 'Nirvana',
the end of cognizant awareness,
the peace at the end of one's discoveries,
the satisfaction for having gotten to this point,
the loss of fear about what will follow.
~
Life is the 'cause', Stuff is the effect, like a nest of down into infinity.
I will certainly miss the gnosis I sense, and the knowledge I will loose.
~
But with all that glob and knowledge lack, I might drop in,
or have I ?
~
Never understand those DIRs.......exception of reality there,
but I guess that's 'religion'.........trying to find Nirvana.
~
Going on I am, and all this from 'nothing' sans 'ness'
~
NuffStuff
'mud
ukok102nak
Active Member
~;> the answer is behind the simple word known as death
when life begin to exist in this universe death follows
as they say
is there anythin or somethin beyond death itself
. ... just askin
if we may say so ... .
:ty:
godbless
unto unto always
when life begin to exist in this universe death follows
as they say
is there anythin or somethin beyond death itself
. ... just askin
if we may say so ... .
:ty:
godbless
unto unto always
Ben Dhyan
Veteran Member
Everyone does that to some extent....but not all will experience reincarnation when death dissolves the body...
