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Abortion - is it wrong?
- Thread starter nnmartin
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Yes, semantics is a popular defense - for your side.
"Why is it wrong to terminate an unwanted pregnancy before the fetus develops an ability to actually experience anything, such as sentience, death or pain?"
"Because I call it 'murder' and everybody knows murder is wrong."
"But why call it 'murder' when the 'victim' has none of the attributes of a living human being?"
"Because Hitler."
Nice argument, bro.
Justifying murder....makes no difference if you're Hitler or a blank face at a computer screen.
Same deal.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
If abortion is murder then washing your hands with anti-bacterial soap is a holocaust, if you insist on calling killing mindless cells "murder".
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The minute you can create a "mindless cell", you can tell me what it's worth.
Alceste
Vagabond
I'm sorry, but were you ever going to explain WHY terminating a pregnancy long before a sentient person develops inside a woman's uterus qualifies as "murder"?
No? Thought not.
Just having a gay old troll, then?
Alceste
Vagabond
If your God "created" ebola, that shows you right there what he thinks human life is worth.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Why would that be necessary? Also, you're the one trying to equate mindless cells with sapient beings. Have you "created a cell" to make such a value call yourself?
Drolefille
PolyPanGeekGirl
My body does it all day long. I scrub them off in the shower, and drop them off in the toilet and once every month or so my body makes an extra point of shedding some mindless cells.
I'm a cell making machine and I'll remove them as I see fit.
Feel free to stop making more cells and see how long you last.
Alceste
Vagabond
Let me introduce you to my good friend Wikipedia:
Prenatal development - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Go. Read. Inform yourself. Come back when you've learned something.
Drolefille
PolyPanGeekGirl
At what point do you think a fetus is sentient?
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
By continuing to compare them to fetuses you're dehumanizing the Jews just as Hitler did.
Alceste
Vagabond
Fun fact: when I got a doctor to induce a miscarriage at 5 weeks, nothing came out that could be identified as a "person", or even the precursor to a "person". The mess was indistinguishable from a normal period. And I was looking. I was curious to see what the little hitch-hiker looked like. It's incredible to me that anybody believes there was a whole person in there. Surely I would have noticed if an entire human corpse came out of my uterus.
PolyHedral
Superabacus Mystic
I create millions of them per year. I'm not dead, after all.
Exodus 20:13 Thou shalt not kill.
Ten Commandments - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Come back when you've cleared your concience.
Drolefille
PolyPanGeekGirl
Not my religion or my god.
Come back when... no don't come back.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
So I take it you don't eat meat, or use anti-bacterial soap? As for the bible, it also commands that we not rotate crops, eat pork or shrimp, wear mixed fabrics, or talk to menstruating women, to beat disobedient slaves, and even gives instructions on how to sell your own daughter into sexual slavery. No sane or sensible person would use such a silly book as a moral compass in the modern world.
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What sane or sensible atheist or murderer would hang out in a religious forum and not expect to hear about religion?