Abrahamic religions can be hazardous to you health

[richardlowellt]

If you're not interested in learning about religion(s), what are you doing here?

I have nothing to learn from religion, in my opinion I think it is unrealistic and totally unnecessary, and I am referring to the Abrahamic religions, some of the other like Buddhism that worship no particular god I find mildly interesting but certainly not enough to waste my time studying about it. And I have already posted why I am here, go back and read it.

 

[richardlowellt]

what are you doing here?[/QUOTE

]read post 100.

 

[Quagmire]

I have nothing to learn from religion, in my opinion I think it is unrealistic and totally unnecessary, and I am referring to the Abrahamic religions, some of the other like Buddhism that worship no particular god I find mildly interesting but certainly not enough to waste my time studying about it.

Then again; what are you doing here.

And I have already posted why I am here, go back and read it.

So you're going to make me read through all of your posts in order to find an answer that may or may not be there?

How about you just tell me.

 

[Quagmire]

... but I am curious as to how and why they continually defend bad religious behavior, or the dogmatic mindset that many religions have.

Fair enough, although I'm guessing this is only part of the story.

 

[Willamena]

Originally Posted by Riverwolf
"All loving" is not in the Tanakh.
And why isn't it?

Are you suggesting that it's lacking, or inherent? Either case would allow for it to be not included.

 

[Arlanbb]

Which are the Abrahamic religions anyway. Anyone have a list?

 

[methylatedghosts]

Sure, the more fairy tales you read and believe the further from reality you get, the more blinded you become to real world events like evolution.

Do they even offer any form of religious studies courses at the college you supposedly work at?

There's a whole lot more to studying world religions than to simply read the stories of each, and believe them.

Surely you would know this as a professor of the arts? Surely you would understand this in the same way that there's more to studying music than listening to and liking a Beethoven Sonata?

Is it truly impossible to study world religions as an athiest? Is it truly impossible to study Islam without believing the words of the Quran? Is it really impossible to study the Wiccan beliefs without becoming Wiccan? Are you that afraid of becoming Hindu after picking up and reading a textbook on the history of Hinduism that you would avoid it altogether? Are world religions such a threat to you?

 

[richardlowellt]

Which are the Abrahamic religions anyway. Anyone have a list?[/QUOTE

]Judaism,Christianity, and Islam

 

[richardlowellt]

Do they even offer any form of religious studies courses at the college you supposedly work at?

No, It's a college of music, and music technology.

There's a whole lot more to studying world religions than to simply read the stories of each, and believe them.

I am aware of that.

Surely you would know this as a professor of the arts? Surely you would understand this in the same way that there's more to studying music than listening to and liking a Beethoven Sonata

Obviously.

Is it truly impossible to study world religions as an athiest?

No, it's entirely possible.
Is it truly impossible to study Islam without believing the words of the Quran?

Ah, yes I think this is not logical, the Quran sets the guidelines for that faith, same as the bible, how does one study the religion without studying the guidelines and the premisses for that religion?

Are world religions such a threat to you?

No, fringe religions just don't interest me enough to spend time learning about them, why don't you do a in-depth study of music theory, or peruvian artifacts? The only threat I feel are from the Abrahamic religions, mostly the Christian and Islam religions.

 

[dragynfly0515]

All coffee sucks!

(let the flaming begin: I HATE LOATH DESPISE COFFEE!!! LONG LIVE TEA!!)

Tea is awesome! Especially Darjeeling.

I definitely prefer tea to Abrahamic religion.
(pitiful attempt to make post relevant)

:candle:
Crys

 

[Metempsychosis]

No, fringe religions just don't interest me enough to spend time learning about them, why don't you do a in-depth study of music theory, or peruvian artifacts? The only threat I feel are from the Abrahamic religions, mostly the Christian and Islam religions.

Why did u leave out dharmic religions dude?

 

[MoonWater]

Ah, yes I think this is not logical, the Quran sets the guidelines for that faith, same as the bible, how does one study the religion without studying the guidelines and the premisses for that religion?

Except there's a big difference between studying a religion and believing in and following said religion. For instance I took a course a couple terms ago that went in depth studying the beliefs and mandates of Christianity and Judaism yet did not become Christian or Jewish. I didn't even feel compelled to join either of those religions, I'm still a fully happy hellbound Pagan. So you see you can study religions without actually joining them or following their guidelines.

You say you have no interest in studying religion and yet you seek to condemn it anyway. I guess you've never heard the saying "he who knows only his side of the argument, knows very little of that." If you hope to have a meaningful debate about religion and hope to be able to bring any value to such a discussion don't you think it would be prudent to do a little studying on the topic first. You can't effectively debate the answer to a math problem with your math teacher if you don't first understand how the math works. The same goes for religion. You're seeking to condemn it when you don't even understand it and refuse to even try. Now tell me how does that even make sense? why do you seek to condemn something you understand so little about?

edit: oh and yo forgot the Ba'hai faith in your list

 

[richardlowellt]

Why did u leave out dharmic religions dude?[/QUOTE

As I have said, I'm not interested in fringe religions, only the three I see as a threat.

 

[Nothing]

If you are not threatened by them richard, they cannot hurt you.

 

[Metempsychosis]

As I have said, I'm not interested in fringe religions, only the three I see as a threat.

Hey sorry to intrude you,what is meant by fringe religions?

 

[richardlowellt]

Except there's a big difference between studying a religion and believing in and following said religion.

Yes, I do understand that.

For instance I took a course a couple terms ago that went in depth studying the beliefs and mandates of Christianity and Judaism yet did not become Christian or Jewish.

It's a foolish premiss, why would you, and why is that part of our conversation, I never suggested that studying a particular religion would cause you to follow that religion.

So you see you can study religions without actually joining them or following their guidelines.

Never even hinted that this was the case.

You say you have no interest in studying religion and yet you seek to condemn it anyway. I guess you've never heard the saying "he who knows only his side of the argument, knows very little of that." If you hope to have a meaningful debate about religion and hope to be able to bring any value to such a discussion don't you think it would be prudent to do a little studying on the topic first.

What is there to study of the three religions in question that is of use to an Atheists? I know the basic premiss of all three, why go into details about something I find totally illogical and unreasonable? They believe in a mythical being that created all, and takes an active part in our everyday life, thats all I need to know.

You can't effectively debate the answer to a math problem with your math teacher if you don't first understand how the math works

The difference is I know how those religions work.

The same goes for religion. You're seeking to condemn it when you don't even understand it and refuse to even try.

Once again, I understand all three very well, I don't need details about a fictitious being and all that he/she/it can and have done.

Now tell me how does that even make sense? why do you seek to condemn something you understand so little about?

See above. This is what I know about those religions, point out were I am in error.

1.) Violent
2.) Irrational
3.) intolerant
4.) allied to racism and tribalism
5.) invested in ignorance
6.) Hostile to free inquiry
7.) Contemptuous of women
8.) coercive to children

edit: oh and yo forgot the Ba'hai faith in your list

I am not interested in fringe religions

 

[richardlowellt]

If you are not threatened by them richard, they cannot hurt you.

Your point?

 

[OmarKhayyam]

If you are not threatened by them richard, they cannot hurt you.

Ah but he IS! We all are. Or at least all of us who wish to be free FROM the followers who think they have a duty to compel the rest of us at act like we believed the same crap they do.

And these believers and what they believe is the ONLY type of religion or religious followers that MATTER. Unless and until religion enters the public arena it is nothing more than a curiosity. A harmless parlor game indulged in by well intentioned effete twits who think goblins and demons and things that go bump in the night actually exist. Such people are of no concern or import to any but themselves.

 

[richardlowellt]

Hey sorry to intrude you,what is meant by fringe religions?

Any of the religions that do not fall into the "big Three" Half the worlds population are members of the three major religions, 3.8 billions.

 

[Metempsychosis]

Any of the religions that do not fall into the "big Three" Half the worlds population are members of the three major religions, 3.8 billions.

Dude Hinduism or Buddhism is way bigger than Judaism in it followers.Even Sikhism has larger followers than Judaism.So u include them too.