Abrahamic religions can be hazardous to you health

[richardlowellt]

Dude Hinduism or Buddhism is way bigger than Judaism in it followers.Even Sikhism has larger followers than Judaism.So u include them too.[/QUOTE

"Dude", do the math, Hinduism and Buddhism along with all the other Dharmic religions account for less that half of the Major three, the score, if your counting is 1 billion 263 million of the Dharmic religions to 3.8 billion of the "big Three"

 

[Nothing]

Fringe religions? The three big ones?
Is it safe to assume that these three big ones you speak of richard would have been fringe religions at the time of their conception?
Is it possible that amongst today's fringe religions could emerge tomorrows big three?
Is it also possible that a future reincarnation of yourself will exist to be threatened by them?

 

[Metempsychosis]

"Dude", do the math, Hinduism and Buddhism along with all the other Dharmic religions account for less that half of the Major three, the score, if your counting is 1 billion 263 million of the Dharmic religions to 3.8 billion of the "big Three"

No dude ,i was telling adding Hinduism or Buddhism to Christianity and Islam while dropping Judaism.

 

[methylatedghosts]

Is it truly impossible to study Islam without believing the words of the Quran?

Ah, yes I think this is not logical, the Quran sets the guidelines for that faith, same as the bible, how does one study the religion without studying the guidelines and the premisses for that religion?

So, by reading the Quran you then start believing it? 0.o

Lol are you that easily persuaded?

No, fringe religions just don't interest me enough to spend time learning about them, why don't you do a in-depth study of music theory, or peruvian artifacts? The only threat I feel are from the Abrahamic religions, mostly the Christian and Islam religions.

Huh... so a religion is dangerous to you, why? What could a religion possibly do to you? Is it a case of your own views being so unstable you feel that a religion could convert you by its mere presence? I dunno - I really don't understand such an irrational fear.

 

[dragynfly0515]

If you are not threatened by them richard, they cannot hurt you.

Did you mean philosophically or physically? You can decide not to feel threatened by a religion all you want, but if that religion's adherents feel that you are part of a group worthy of death and they happen to be in power, then I bet that they can hurt you.

I feel that any religion that is intolerant of other's beliefs or seeks to coerce others to their beliefs is a potential threat to the freedom of those outside that religion.

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Crys

 

[methylatedghosts]

Did you mean philosophically or physically? You can decide not to feel threatened by a religion all you want, but if that religion's adherents feel that you are part of a group worthy of death and they happen to be in power, then I bet that they can hurt you.

But it's not the religion thats hurting you at all.

People can twist the beliefs of many religions into many different things, and use them as an excuse to do things how they want.

People cause the hurt - they just happen to use a religion as an excuse - it's not the religion itself that is the cause.

 

[dragynfly0515]

But it's not the religion thats hurting you at all.

People cause the hurt - they just happen to use a religion as an excuse - it's not the religion itself that is the cause.

As a hypothetical example, if a religion says that all people who wear purple hats are deserving of death and adherents of that religion, based on their faith in it, begin to kill all wearers of purple hats, I would respectfully submit that the religion itself is the cause.

I believe that not all of those people would go out to kill purple hat wearers on their own, even if most people thought wearing purple hats was offensive to start with. Their belief in the religion is the impetus for their actions, not an excuse for them.

 

[richardlowellt]

Fringe religions? The three big ones?

I'm using the common description of any religion that does not fall into the Abrahamic religions, also referred to as the Monotheism, the "big three" is my verbal shortcut.

Is it safe to assume that these three big ones you speak of richard would have been fringe religions at the time of their conception?

Don't know, could be, not important to the conversation or to me.

Is it possible that amongst today's fringe religions could emerge tomorrows big three?

I suppose given the gullibility of the masses that this is possible.

Is it also possible that a future reincarnation of yourself will exist to be threatened by them?

No it's not possible as I don't believe in reincarnation.

 

[Nothing]

I find your lack of a sence of humour quite hilarious richard, thank you!

 

[richardlowellt]

No dude ,i was telling adding Hinduism or Buddhism to Christianity and Islam while dropping Judaism.

And what's the point? There called fringe religions as a matter of fact, their not as large as the Monotheistic religions, hey, it's not my term "fringe" it's a commonly used term to isolate religions that do not fall into the major Monotheism's

 

[richardlowellt]

So, by reading the Quran you then start believing it? 0.o

Lol are you that easily persuaded?

I can only assume I worded my response wrong, no of course I can't believe a religious book or anything in it by just reading it. I'm not even sure as to what your original question was.

Huh... so a religion is dangerous to you, why? What could a religion possibly do to you?

Not all religions, I'm very careful to zero in on the three monotheistic religions. There a threat because they try and force themselves on society, as in teaching Creationist BS in public schools, as in worming their way into politics, as in forcing their way into all of public life, prayers in school, at sporting events, ect. ect. Are you not aware of the fact that Huckabee, wanted the US constitutions wording changed to be more inline with the teachings of the bible. Do you know what life is like under the curse of the Taliban? It's a short step from religion in politics and in our public life to the mindset of the Taliban. It does seem foolish that I should have to make you aware of these things, don't you pay attention?

Is it a case of your own views being so unstable you feel that a religion could convert you by its mere presence?

Up until now you seemed like a reasonable person, with this comment stupidity comes to mind.

I dunno - I really don't understand such an irrational fear.

It's apparent that you don't.

 

[richardlowellt]

I find your lack of a sence of humour quite hilarious richard, thank you!

I have no idea of what your referring to, please don't waste my time with veiled references.

 

[Nothing]

So I ask myself can Abrahamic religions be hazardous to my health? Yes, I suppose I can if I allow them to do so. And in fact, I must admit they have if you consider Catholicism as one of those religions. However I have long since rejected those beliefs and have healed from the damage done. I know I am healed because I no longer see it as a threat. As far as others go, they too have the choice to be harmed or healed. You and I may think that by choosing these beliefs they are harming themselves, but who are we to impose our beliefs on others? By doing so are we not behaving like those we deem as harmful?

What do you think?

 

[Metempsychosis]

And what's the point? There called fringe religions as a matter of fact, their not as large as the Monotheistic religions, hey, it's not my term "fringe" it's a commonly used term to isolate religions that do not fall into the major Monotheism's

Ok i dont want argue with u.Just curious with selection of the 3 religions.

 

[richardlowellt]

So I ask myself can Abrahamic religions be hazardous to my health? Yes, I suppose I can if I allow them to do so. And in fact, I must admit they have if you consider Catholicism as one of those religions. However I have long since rejected those beliefs and have healed from the damage done. I know I am healed because I no longer see it as a threat. As far as others go, they too have the choice to be harmed or healed. You and I may think that by choosing these beliefs they are harming themselves, but who are we to impose our beliefs on others? By doing so are we not behaving like those we deem as harmful?

What do you think?[/QUOTE

I think that you just don't get what I'm talking about, I am not talking about religion being a danger to me as an individual, I'm an Atheists, I don't need to be healed from any pervious religious experience. I'm talking about the dangers of the Abrahamic religions to our society, and yes Catholicism is part of the Abrahamic religions. What would you do if religion got a form foot hold in our political system as it almost did with Bush, and it became a law that homosexuality was a crime? What if everyday work was stopped and you were required to pray for 20 minutes. What if you were an Atheists and your child was forced into a class were Creationism was being taught, and most likely ridiculed by the other children because of his or her non belief. What if you were an Atheist and were fired because of your non-belief, or went for a job interview and were turned down because of your non-belief. Need I go on, can you not create scenerio's similar to these?

 

[richardlowellt]

Ok i dont want argue with u.Just curious with selection of the 3 religions.

No argument here, look up Abrahamic religions and there you will find Judaism, Catholicism, and Islam.

 

[Nothing]

Okay, so you see the threat on a societal level. I do not dispute that all your "what ifs" are occurring somewhere on the planet right now. I to would like to see an end to these impositions upon ones free will. So what do you suggest? I see you are very adept at articulating the problem, but what would you compose as a solution? You seem more focused on the harm then on the healing. Perhaps you could share with us what your vision of a better world is?

 

[richardlowellt]

Okay, so you see the threat on a societal level. I do not dispute that all your "what ifs" are occurring somewhere on the planet right now. I to would like to see an end to these impositions upon ones free will. So what do you suggest? I see you are very adept at articulating the problem, but what would you compose as a solution? You seem more focused on the harm then on the healing. Perhaps you could share with us what your vision of a better world is?

Those of us who see the threat can only bring it to the attention of others, many time an evil is hidden behind the veil of goodness and love. I'm certainly not going to propose that behind all religions are this lurking evil, most religious people do wonderful things, but these dogmatic mindsets and rigid thinking often seep through all the good intentions, and all religions have their radical extremists, these are very dangerous people. My vision of a better world would be one of religion being kept personal, keep it's teachings in the home or the church and out of public life. I do believe Jesus told his followers to do the same.

 

[Nothing]

That's a good start richard, but perhaps you could elaborate on your vision

 

[richardlowellt]

That's a good start richard, but perhaps you could elaborate on your vision

What vision? It's not a vision, its a very simple "Keep your religion to yourself" keep it out of public schools, and out of both local and federal governments. Unfortunately people will always look to religion for comfort and hope, the idea of an afterlife is very attractive, as is the "Big Daddy" in the sky who loves and cares for me. I personally thinks it makes people weak and they avoid dealing with their problems and fears, rather look to this fictitious being for guidance and help. I can only be thankful that I live my life free of these restricting thoughts and see the world and it's problems for what they are and realize I am the only one who has the answers, I alone must find the strength to conquer whatever problems or fears come along.