Adam was made the 3rd Day, Scripturally

[firedragon]

Today is the 6th Day since God is STILL creating Adam (mankind) in His Image or In Christ. Gen 1:27 Do you disagree? Are you afraid to tell us that God has already rested from ALL of His work of Creating?



Dear sojourner, Let me be really precise in getting your view of God ceasing to Create on the 7th Day. Is the 7th Day in the Past. Is it History? Has God already rested? God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

You know something bro? This is the first time I am seeing someone salute with an In Love. Its kinda surprising and also heartening.

 

[Muffled]

:clap

Living up tp christian standards I see.

I like them better than Hollywood standards but maybe it is a bit over the top to blame California for Hollywoods immorality although I believe a little of that has to rub off on the natives.

 

[Muffled]

Aman:>>Read Gen 2:4-7 which tells us man was made on the SAME Day that the first Earth was made Gen 1:-10 and BEFORE the plants, herbs, and rain which GREW on the THIRD Day. Gen 1:12 Then read Gen 2:9-10 and you will see that the LORD makes the Trees AFTER He makes Adam. It really doesn't make ANY difference what I believe, but it does make a difference with what was actually written by God, Himself. God Bless you.



Dear Muffled, YHWH/Jesus is Jehovah. Some men have simply added vowels to the name of Jesus in the OT. Jesus is LORD. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

I believe that but the names are not the same Jesus is YSWH meaning Jehovah saves. Jehovah saves.

 

[Muffled]

Dear Muffled, Since Adam was made the SAME Day that his Earth was made, Gen 2:4-7 you must believe that our Earth is only 7k years old and that Adam lived on our Earth. Correct? Which gods teach people have to grow food? I've read nothing in the Bible to indicate this. Do Jehovah witnesses teach this? God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

I believe your conclusion is wrong because your premise is wrong as I have shown before.

I believe it is the Norse gods who have stated that they created man from the earth and called him "human."

I believe you missed a few things and I can identify with that because I still find new things in scripture all the time and after having read the Bible through around ten times.

I don't believe I would give much credence to what JW's believe but I can ask my brother-in-law if you like.

 

[Aman777]

7th day is past. Otherwise the bible would not say "He rested". It will be "He will rest".

Peace.

Dear firedragon, Not in Hebrew. The word "rest" in Hebrew is the word Shabath which means to Cease. In God's case, since He is the Creator, it is when God ceases from ALL of His creating as Gen 2:2-3 confirms twice. it's because the Creation of the perfect Heaven is Finished (Heb-completed, which in God's case means brought to perfection since it's the only way a perfect God completes a work) and filled with ALL of the Host of Heaven, which includes ALL Christians, including the last sinner who is created in Christ. Genesis 2:1

The Hebrew tense for the word "rest" is in the Imperfect Tense, which means that the action is NOT yet complete. The action of a Christian's rest with God is FUTURE. Heb 4:9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.

God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

 

[Aman777]

Dear sojourner, Let me be really precise in getting your view of God ceasing to Create on the 7th Day. Is the 7th Day in the Past. Is it History? Has God already rested? God Bless you.

That was the meaning the writers intended.

Dear sojourner, False since God has but 7 Days and the 7th Day is Eternity, since it has NO evening, and NO ending.

We live today on the 6th Creative Day at Gen 1:27 because God is STILL creating Adam (Hebrew-mankind) in His Image, or in Christ, TODAY. Gen 1:28-31 is Prophecy of future events which will happen AFTER Jesus returns to this Earth at the end of time. He will change EVERY creature into a Vegetarian, something which has NEVER taken place in History. Gen 1:30 God bless you.

In Love,
Aman

 

[firedragon]

Dear sojourner, Let me be really precise in getting your view of God ceasing to Create on the 7th Day. Is the 7th Day in the Past. Is it History? Has God already rested? God Bless you.



Dear sojourner, False since God has but 7 Days and the 7th Day is Eternity, since it has NO evening, and NO ending.

We live today on the 6th Creative Day at Gen 1:27 because God is STILL creating Adam (Hebrew-mankind) in His Image, or in Christ, TODAY. Gen 1:28-31 is Prophecy of future events which will happen AFTER Jesus returns to this Earth at the end of time. He will change EVERY creature into a Vegetarian, something which has NEVER taken place in History. Gen 1:30 God bless you.

In Love,
Aman

So you say that since Adam is still being created, Cain and able are yet to be born and their progeny will be born in the future so their great great what grand son Jesus will born in the future and we are all still a concept in Gods mind, not walking talking humans already born to run.

The bible says made, not will make. Bible says rested, not will rest one day in our hallucinated future.

I beg you not to get angry, but this is nonsensical.

Peace.

 

[Aman777]

We live today on the 6th Creative Day at Gen 1:27 because God is STILL creating Adam (Hebrew-mankind) in His Image, or in Christ, TODAY. Gen 1:28-31 is Prophecy of future events which will happen AFTER Jesus returns to this Earth at the end of time. He will change EVERY creature into a Vegetarian, something which has NEVER taken place in History. Gen 1:30 God bless you.

So you say that since Adam is still being created,

Dear firedragon, No. I am saying that mankind is STILL being Created in God's Image or being born again Spiritually, Today. Just ask ANY Church IF God is still creating mankind (Heb-Adam) in Christ. They will assure you that it's NOT too late to be born of the Spirit of God, Eternally.

Cain and able are yet to be born and their progeny will be born in the future so their great great what grand son Jesus will born in the future and we are all still a concept in Gods mind, not walking talking humans already born to run.

Hold on now. You are proclaiming what you think, I think, which means that soon, you will lower the boom on me because I was thinking silly. Right?

The bible says made, not will make. Bible says rested, not will rest one day in our hallucinated future.

I beg you not to get angry, but this is nonsensical.

Peace.

Why should I be angry at one who follows Allah? I don't know if God is using another name with Muslims or not, but I dare not insult you by calling your Faith "nonsensical". Walking around a big rock in Mecca seems kinda nonsensical to me, but that's probably because I don't understand the reason behind the march. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

 

[firedragon]

We live today on the 6th Creative Day at Gen 1:27 because God is STILL creating Adam (Hebrew-mankind) in His Image, or in Christ, TODAY. Gen 1:28-31 is Prophecy of future events which will happen AFTER Jesus returns to this Earth at the end of time. He will change EVERY creature into a Vegetarian, something which has NEVER taken place in History. Gen 1:30 God bless you.



Why should I be angry at one who follows Allah? I don't know if God is using another name with Muslims or not, but I dare not insult you by calling your Faith "nonsensical". Walking around a big rock in Mecca seems kinda nonsensical to me, but that's probably because I don't understand the reason behind the march. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

Brother. If walking around a box is nonsensical to you, shrug it off as a no basis ritual, but reading a text in the past tense and thinking its in the future is ludicrous.

 

[sojourner]

Dear sojourner, Let me be really precise in getting your view of God ceasing to Create on the 7th Day. Is the 7th Day in the Past. Is it History? Has God already rested? God Bless you.



Dear sojourner, False since God has but 7 Days and the 7th Day is Eternity, since it has NO evening, and NO ending.

We live today on the 6th Creative Day at Gen 1:27 because God is STILL creating Adam (Hebrew-mankind) in His Image, or in Christ, TODAY. Gen 1:28-31 is Prophecy of future events which will happen AFTER Jesus returns to this Earth at the end of time. He will change EVERY creature into a Vegetarian, something which has NEVER taken place in History. Gen 1:30 God bless you.

In Love,
Aman

Nope. Since the texts make clear that God was using the next day to rest after all that God had done, we can assume that all days have an evening. The whole "and there was evening and there was morning" thing is nothing more than a literary device.

You'll have to do much, much, much better than that.

 

[Aman777]

Brother. If walking around a box is nonsensical to you, shrug it off as a no basis ritual, but reading a text in the past tense and thinking its in the future is ludicrous.

Dear firedragon, I tried to tell you that it is NOT in past tense in Hebrew, but in Hebrew Imperfect tense, which means that it is NOT yet complete. Here is Strong's:

>>>>>>The imperfect expresses an action, process or condition which is incomplete, and it has a wide range of meaning:

1a) It is used to describe a single (as opposed to a repeated) action in the past;

1b) A phrase such as "What seekest thou?", refers not only to the present,

Such actions are strictly "future" in reference to the assumed point of relation, and the simple imperfect sufficiently expresses them; e.g.<<<<<

As you can see, the Hebrew Imperfect tense shows an action which is INCOMPLETE, and it speaks of the past, present, and future. You are trying to make an English word define the tense of a Hebrew word, but you find that it doesn't agree with the English word. That is WHY study is necessary, instead of just accepting what ancient men thought. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

 

[firedragon]

Dear firedragon, I tried to tell you that it is NOT in past tense in Hebrew, but in Hebrew Imperfect tense, which means that it is NOT yet complete. Here is Strong's:

>>>>>>The imperfect expresses an action, process or condition which is incomplete, and it has a wide range of meaning:

1a) It is used to describe a single (as opposed to a repeated) action in the past;

1b) A phrase such as "What seekest thou?", refers not only to the present,

Such actions are strictly "future" in reference to the assumed point of relation, and the simple imperfect sufficiently expresses them; e.g.<<<<<

As you can see, the Hebrew Imperfect tense shows an action which is INCOMPLETE, and it speaks of the past, present, and future. You are trying to make an English word define the tense of a Hebrew word, but you find that it doesn't agree with the English word. That is WHY study is necessary, instead of just accepting what ancient men thought. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

Brother, if I missed one of your posts and asked you the same question again, I am sorry, I didn't mean to.

I appreciate the fact that you have learnt it.

The verses in question in chapter two. Lets take it aight. Please correct me as I am no scholar in the hebrew language and I find it difficult to explain a semitic language in the light of English Grammar.

Genesis 2:1 says kalah-yakol to mean finished. If you like to translate one word then Genesis 1:31 says it was evening? No it doesn't, it says becoming evening. In that case none of this occurred and is still happening. I don't know how to spell it, Hayah? becoming. Actually he becoming. If you translate Hebrew that way it doesn't make any sense. He becoming evening, He becoming morning. The correct rendering is Evening Existed and morning existed as in happened.

Genesis 2:2 says Kalah, yes that means finishing. Then it says Shabath, u ishbath or root Shabath, Yashab which means he is ceasing. I wonder if this is the reason you say that he still at work, I mean still ceasing his work. But brother note the end of the sentence which says "Which he did". That concludes it. Ashr Oshe.

Genesis 2:3 &#1513;&#1468;&#1464;&#1489;&#1463;&#1514; is shbth (Shabath) Genesis 2:2 which is &#1493;&#1463;&#1497;&#1473;&#1460;&#1513;&#1468;&#1456;&#1489;&#1465;&#1514; u ishbth (Yashab).

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[ScuzManiac]

Dear firedragon, I tried to tell you that it is NOT in past tense in Hebrew, but in Hebrew Imperfect tense, which means that it is NOT yet complete. Here is Strong's:

>>>>>>The imperfect expresses an action, process or condition which is incomplete, and it has a wide range of meaning:

1a) It is used to describe a single (as opposed to a repeated) action in the past;

1b) A phrase such as "What seekest thou?", refers not only to the present,

Such actions are strictly "future" in reference to the assumed point of relation, and the simple imperfect sufficiently expresses them; e.g.<<<<<

As you can see, the Hebrew Imperfect tense shows an action which is INCOMPLETE, and it speaks of the past, present, and future. You are trying to make an English word define the tense of a Hebrew word, but you find that it doesn't agree with the English word. That is WHY study is necessary, instead of just accepting what ancient men thought. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

So....

You work around what's in The Bible and make it mean what you want?

So it will make sense?

:clap

 

[sojourner]

Have we finally stilled the storm of senselessness? Two days and nothing but Blessed Silence!

 

[Aman777]

Brother, if I missed one of your posts and asked you the same question again, I am sorry, I didn't mean to.

I appreciate the fact that you have learnt it.

The verses in question in chapter two. Lets take it aight. Please correct me as I am no scholar in the hebrew language and I find it difficult to explain a semitic language in the light of English Grammar.

Genesis 2:1 says kalah-yakol to mean finished. If you like to translate one word then Genesis 1:31 says it was evening? No it doesn't, it says becoming evening. In that case none of this occurred and is still happening. I don't know how to spell it, Hayah? becoming. Actually he becoming. If you translate Hebrew that way it doesn't make any sense. He becoming evening, He becoming morning. The correct rendering is Evening Existed and morning existed as in happened.

Genesis 2:2 says Kalah, yes that means finishing. Then it says Shabath, u ishbath or root Shabath, Yashab which means he is ceasing. I wonder if this is the reason you say that he still at work, I mean still ceasing his work. But brother note the end of the sentence which says "Which he did". That concludes it. Ashr Oshe.

Genesis 2:3 &#1513;&#1468;&#1464;&#1489;&#1463;&#1514; is shbth (Shabath) Genesis 2:2 which is &#1493;&#1463;&#1497;&#1473;&#1460;&#1513;&#1468;&#1456;&#1489;&#1465;&#1514; u ishbth (Yashab).

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Dear firedragon, Jesus tells us that God is Still working, and that He is Still working. Jhn 5:17 Any denomination today will tell you that the Holy Spirit is Still working today. Therefore, it is a misunderstanding of Gen 2:2 and Gen 2:3 which REPEATS that God ceases or rests from ALL oi His work of Creating on the 7th Day.

God doesn't rest (cease) creating until His Creation is Finished or brought to perfection, which is the only way God's work can truly be finished. To believe that God ceased creating in the beginning is False. At the end of the present 6th Day, all creatures will become Vegetarians. Gen 1:30 Then, God will say, It is very good, and the present 6th Day will end.

It also takes the AGREEMENT of God (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) to "create" a new creature in Christ, Gen 1:26 AND John 14:16 which also confirms that God is STILL working TODAY. That's because TODAY is the 6th Creative Day in the Creation of the perfect Third Heaven. ll Corinthians 12:2 and Revelation 21:1 God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

 

[sojourner]

Aw, Gawd!...

 

[firedragon]

Dear firedragon, Jesus tells us that God is Still working, and that He is Still working. Jhn 5:17 Any denomination today will tell you that the Holy Spirit is Still working today. Therefore, it is a misunderstanding of Gen 2:2 and Gen 2:3 which REPEATS that God ceases or rests from ALL oi His work of Creating on the 7th Day.

God is still working does not mean he is still creating Adam. I showed you textually that God ended it, and he ceased. I am not here to defend the bible but your theory is not provable.

God doesn't rest (cease) creating until His Creation is Finished or brought to perfection, which is the only way God's work can truly be finished. To believe that God ceased creating in the beginning is False. At the end of the present 6th Day, all creatures will become Vegetarians. Gen 1:30 Then, God will say, It is very good, and the present 6th Day will end.

It also takes the AGREEMENT of God (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) to "create" a new creature in Christ, Gen 1:26 AND John 14:16 which also confirms that God is STILL working TODAY. That's because TODAY is the 6th Creative Day in the Creation of the perfect Third Heaven. ll Corinthians 12:2 and Revelation 21:1 God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

You quoted Genesis 1:26 and John 14:16 to show that God is still working, Genesis is talking of creation, John is a different story

"And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever"

Its chalk and cheese.

And since you pointed to Genesis 1:26, go to 27, it says Barah which means "created".

Brother, keeping the textual proof aside, are you telling me, thinking logically that God hasn't finished making adam, so cain and abel are still not born, so Jesus could not have been born because according to the same bible that you refer to Jesus is from Abrahams seed. So are we all still a concept? I am pretty sure I am alive because I am typing this message. I wonder if God created me before Adam.

Peace bro.

 

[Aman777]

God is still working does not mean he is still creating Adam. I showed you textually that God ended it, and he ceased. I am not here to defend the bible but your theory is not provable.

Dear firedragon, IF I was speaking of just one verse, you might have a case, but I have many, many, more references which agree with me.

You quoted Genesis 1:26 and John 14:16 to show that God is still working, Genesis is talking of creation, John is a different story

False, since Genesis Chapter one IS the outline of ALL of the rest of the Bible. Gen 1:26 shows that it takes the AGREEMENT of the Trinity to "Create" man in God's Image, Spiritually. John 14:16 shows the SAME thing from the New Testament, which agrees with Gen 1:26, confirming that it takes the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit to make a New Creature in Christ, Spiritually and Eternally.

"And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever"

Its chalk and cheese.

And since you pointed to Genesis 1:26, go to 27, it says Barah which means "created".

Correct. It takes the Trinity to Create a New Christian, which means that God, the Trinity, is STILL working to create eternal Humans to rule Heaven. God's rest is Future. This is clear when you read the prophecy of Gen 1:28-31 which speaks of a time AFTER Jesus returns to this Planet and changes ALL creatures into Vegetarians as Gen 1:30 shows.

Brother, keeping the textual proof aside, are you telling me, thinking logically that God hasn't finished making adam, so cain and abel are still not born, so Jesus could not have been born because according to the same bible that you refer to Jesus is from Abrahams seed. So are we all still a concept? I am pretty sure I am alive because I am typing this message. I wonder if God created me before Adam.

Peace bro.

God hasn't finished making the last Christian in His Image YET. The Church and the Holy Spirit are still working to find that last Christian since it is necessary that he be saved for the 6th Day to be complete. This is because of Gen 2:1 which tells us that when God's work is finished (completed), which in God's case means Brought to Perfection since God is perfect and His work is perfect when it is Finished. ALL the host of Heaven will also be in Heaven, at that time. Christians are among the host of Heaven, for we will have dominion (rule) there.
Gen 2:1¶ Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.


ALL of the host of Heaven includes that last Christian who has yet to be created Spiritually. So hurry up. It could be you. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

 

[sojourner]

Dear firedragon, IF I was speaking of just one verse, you might have a case, but I have many, many, more references which agree with me.



False, since Genesis Chapter one IS the outline of ALL of the rest of the Bible. Gen 1:26 shows that it takes the AGREEMENT of the Trinity to "Create" man in God's Image, Spiritually. John 14:16 shows the SAME thing from the New Testament, which agrees with Gen 1:26, confirming that it takes the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit to make a New Creature in Christ, Spiritually and Eternally.



Correct. It takes the Trinity to Create a New Christian, which means that God, the Trinity, is STILL working to create eternal Humans to rule Heaven. God's rest is Future. This is clear when you read the prophecy of Gen 1:28-31 which speaks of a time AFTER Jesus returns to this Planet and changes ALL creatures into Vegetarians as Gen 1:30 shows.



God hasn't finished making the last Christian in His Image YET. The Church and the Holy Spirit are still working to find that last Christian since it is necessary that he be saved for the 6th Day to be complete. This is because of Gen 2:1 which tells us that when God's work is finished (completed), which in God's case means Brought to Perfection since God is perfect and His work is perfect when it is Finished. ALL the host of Heaven will also be in Heaven, at that time. Christians are among the host of Heaven, for we will have dominion (rule) there.
Gen 2:1¶ Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.


ALL of the host of Heaven includes that last Christian who has yet to be created Spiritually. So hurry up. It could be you. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

I had so hoped that we'd finally ridded ourselves of this theologically-vapid, baseless ruination of the creation myths.

Oh, well. Jesus had a cross to bear, too, I suppose.

 

[ScuzManiac]

Dear firedragon, IF I was speaking of just one verse, you might have a case, but I have many, many, more references which agree with me.

Then why not provide them? That's why no one takes you serious on this board.

Someone debunks the verse that YOU provided and your response is...

Oh, well. I still have more verses that I'm not going to give you that agree with me.

P.S. I have 20 million dollars laying on my desk right now but I'm not going to show you.