Adam was made the 3rd Day, Scripturally

[firedragon]

Dear firedragon, IF I was speaking of just one verse, you might have a case, but I have many, many, more references which agree with me.



False, since Genesis Chapter one IS the outline of ALL of the rest of the Bible. Gen 1:26 shows that it takes the AGREEMENT of the Trinity to "Create" man in God's Image, Spiritually. John 14:16 shows the SAME thing from the New Testament, which agrees with Gen 1:26, confirming that it takes the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit to make a New Creature in Christ, Spiritually and Eternally.



Correct. It takes the Trinity to Create a New Christian, which means that God, the Trinity, is STILL working to create eternal Humans to rule Heaven. God's rest is Future. This is clear when you read the prophecy of Gen 1:28-31 which speaks of a time AFTER Jesus returns to this Planet and changes ALL creatures into Vegetarians as Gen 1:30 shows.



God hasn't finished making the last Christian in His Image YET. The Church and the Holy Spirit are still working to find that last Christian since it is necessary that he be saved for the 6th Day to be complete. This is because of Gen 2:1 which tells us that when God's work is finished (completed), which in God's case means Brought to Perfection since God is perfect and His work is perfect when it is Finished. ALL the host of Heaven will also be in Heaven, at that time. Christians are among the host of Heaven, for we will have dominion (rule) there.
Gen 2:1¶ Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.


ALL of the host of Heaven includes that last Christian who has yet to be created Spiritually. So hurry up. It could be you. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

I proved to you that Genesis is saying that God created, he was done with creating man. Now you have changed idea to creating the last Christian. Earlier it was "God is still creating Adam".

If you read the Hebrew scripture, the first reference to man was not the English word Man, nor was it the Greek word Anthropos which has made our translators say man, it was Adam. Genesis 1:27 says Adam. No offense brother, your argument on Shbt was not quite right, I showed it to you, then it was man being created, that also I showed you that he ended it. Now you say Christian is being still created.

I don't know, I apologise if I cant see clearly but to me it does not make sense. Also, if Jesus wanted to say that God is still creating man, Adam or the last Christian, he would have said it. Working does not mean he is still creating Adam or Christian. Working means he is working which means God is still present, he is still working.

הָּאָדָּם. Genesis 1:27. Adam.

 

[Aman777]

I proved to you that Genesis is saying that God created, he was done with creating man. Now you have changed idea to creating the last Christian. Earlier it was "God is still creating Adam".

Dear firedragon, The reason is simple. The first 34 verses of the Bible tells the entire HISTORY of God's Seven Days or Ages of the Creation, including events which are yet Future to our time, which will NOT happen until AFTER Jesus returns and changes everything living into Vegetarians, Gen 1:30 and that is at the end of the Present SIXTH Creative Day. God wrote our FUTURE in the Beginning. It's proof of God, since only God sees the end from the Beginning. Isa 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning...

As you can see, God not only knew the end from the beginning, but He also declared it, proclaimed it, and wrote it, in the first 34 verses of the Bible. Genesis one is the complete History of the 6 Days of God's work in which He created Heaven and filled it with Christians. Genesis 2:2-3 speaks of a Day or Age in the Future when God rests (Ceases to Create since His perfect Third Heaven is finally brought to perfection) and filled with ALL the Host of Heaven as Gen 2:1 clearly states.

Personally, I am happy that God did it the way He did because in Heaven, we will be able to open and read the entire History of the Creation, of the perfect Heaven in the FIRST Chapter of Genesis.....and since it appears to be written in PAST tense, it's the Perfect History of the Finished work of the Trinity, including the Finished work of Jesus which assured our Salvation.

If you read the Hebrew scripture, the first reference to man was not the English word Man, nor was it the Greek word Anthropos which has made our translators say man, it was Adam. Genesis 1:27 says Adam. No offense brother, your argument on Shbt was not quite right, I showed it to you, then it was man being created, that also I showed you that he ended it. Now you say Christian is being still created.

Of course it says Adam because the Hebrew word Adam means mankind. I show that it is Humankind and NOT the preshistoric people, who evolved from the water, as today's "willingly ignorant" scientists falsely Claim.

I don't know, I apologise if I cant see clearly but to me it does not make sense. Also, if Jesus wanted to say that God is still creating man, Adam or the last Christian, he would have said it. Working does not mean he is still creating Adam or Christian. Working means he is working which means God is still present, he is still working.

הָּאָדָּם. Genesis 1:27. Adam.

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Don't think it strange because you cannot see what I am posting. It's the SAME with many Christians, who have believed by Faith, and not empirical Fact. Look at me like you would old doubting Thomas, who also sought to understand what he was seeing. That makes me the least and not the best Christian since the Best believe by Faith alone. Most of them call themselves Young Earth Creationists.

It takes the AGREEMENT of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit to "create" a New Christian which means that the TRINITY is STILL working and will continue to work until Their perfect 3rd Heaven is filled and then Christians will enter the Age of Joy, the 7th Day, which has NO evening, NO ending, for it is ETERNITY. God Bless you.

Heb 4:9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.


In Love,
Aman

 

[firedragon]

Dear firedragon, The reason is simple. The first 34 verses of the Bible tells the entire HISTORY of God's Seven Days or Ages of the Creation, including events which are yet Future to our time, which will NOT happen until AFTER Jesus returns and changes everything living into Vegetarians, Gen 1:30 and that is at the end of the Present SIXTH Creative Day. God wrote our FUTURE in the Beginning. It's proof of God, since only God sees the end from the Beginning. Isa 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning...

As you can see, God not only knew the end from the beginning, but He also declared it, proclaimed it, and wrote it, in the first 34 verses of the Bible. Genesis one is the complete History of the 6 Days of God's work in which He created Heaven and filled it with Christians. Genesis 2:2-3 speaks of a Day or Age in the Future when God rests (Ceases to Create since His perfect Third Heaven is finally brought to perfection) and filled with ALL the Host of Heaven as Gen 2:1 clearly states.

Personally, I am happy that God did it the way He did because in Heaven, we will be able to open and read the entire History of the Creation, of the perfect Heaven in the FIRST Chapter of Genesis.....and since it appears to be written in PAST tense, it's the Perfect History of the Finished work of the Trinity, including the Finished work of Jesus which assured our Salvation.



Of course it says Adam because the Hebrew word Adam means mankind. I show that it is Humankind and NOT the preshistoric people, who evolved from the water, as today's "willingly ignorant" scientists falsely Claim.

Don't think it strange because you cannot see what I am posting. It's the SAME with many Christians, who have believed by Faith, and not empirical Fact. Look at me like you would old doubting Thomas, who also sought to understand what he was seeing. That makes me the least and not the best Christian since the Best believe by Faith alone. Most of them call themselves Young Earth Creationists.

It takes the AGREEMENT of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit to "create" a New Christian which means that the TRINITY is STILL working and will continue to work until Their perfect 3rd Heaven is filled and then Christians will enter the Age of Joy, the 7th Day, which has NO evening, NO ending, for it is ETERNITY. God Bless you.

Heb 4:9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.


In Love,
Aman[/QUOTE]

Peace Bro.

 

[Muffled]

Dear sojourner, Let me be really precise in getting your view of God ceasing to Create on the 7th Day. Is the 7th Day in the Past. Is it History? Has God already rested? God Bless you.



Dear sojourner, False since God has but 7 Days and the 7th Day is Eternity, since it has NO evening, and NO ending.

We live today on the 6th Creative Day at Gen 1:27 because God is STILL creating Adam (Hebrew-mankind) in His Image, or in Christ, TODAY. Gen 1:28-31 is Prophecy of future events which will happen AFTER Jesus returns to this Earth at the end of time. He will change EVERY creature into a Vegetarian, something which has NEVER taken place in History. Gen 1:30 God bless you.

In Love,
Aman

I believe this logic is incorrect since a day is defined with an evening and it wouldn't be a day without one.

I believe there is no Biblical evidence to support this.

 

[Muffled]

Dear firedragon, I tried to tell you that it is NOT in past tense in Hebrew, but in Hebrew Imperfect tense, which means that it is NOT yet complete. Here is Strong's:

>>>>>>The imperfect expresses an action, process or condition which is incomplete, and it has a wide range of meaning:

1a) It is used to describe a single (as opposed to a repeated) action in the past;

1b) A phrase such as "What seekest thou?", refers not only to the present,

Such actions are strictly "future" in reference to the assumed point of relation, and the simple imperfect sufficiently expresses them; e.g.<<<<<

As you can see, the Hebrew Imperfect tense shows an action which is INCOMPLETE, and it speaks of the past, present, and future. You are trying to make an English word define the tense of a Hebrew word, but you find that it doesn't agree with the English word. That is WHY study is necessary, instead of just accepting what ancient men thought. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

I beleive a day has an ongoing aspect to it but only for that day.

 

[Muffled]

Dear firedragon, Jesus tells us that God is Still working, and that He is Still working. Jhn 5:17 Any denomination today will tell you that the Holy Spirit is Still working today. Therefore, it is a misunderstanding of Gen 2:2 and Gen 2:3 which REPEATS that God ceases or rests from ALL oi His work of Creating on the 7th Day.

God doesn't rest (cease) creating until His Creation is Finished or brought to perfection, which is the only way God's work can truly be finished. To believe that God ceased creating in the beginning is False. At the end of the present 6th Day, all creatures will become Vegetarians. Gen 1:30 Then, God will say, It is very good, and the present 6th Day will end.

It also takes the AGREEMENT of God (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) to "create" a new creature in Christ, Gen 1:26 AND John 14:16 which also confirms that God is STILL working TODAY. That's because TODAY is the 6th Creative Day in the Creation of the perfect Third Heaven. ll Corinthians 12:2 and Revelation 21:1 God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

I believe the word creating is not equivalent to creation. God rested from His creation of the universe which means it was finished but God still creates other things like Jesus for instance not because Jesus was necessary for the universe but because He was necessary for us. God will create a new limb for someone who lost one but not because the universe needed it but because the person needed it.

This conclusion does not follow from the premises.

 

[Aman777]

I believe the word creating is not equivalent to creation. God rested from His creation of the universe which means it was finished but God still creates other things like Jesus for instance not because Jesus was necessary for the universe but because He was necessary for us. God will create a new limb for someone who lost one but not because the universe needed it but because the person needed it.

This conclusion does not follow from the premises.

Dear Muffled, Can you tell us of a time in the past when EVERY living creature was a Vegetarian? Before you can jump to the 7th Day, which has no morning and no evening, you must show that the PROPHECY of Gen 1:28-31 has ALREADY happened in the past. Failure to do this will show that it is a FUTURE event which will not happen until Jesus returns to this Earth at the end of time, as Isaiah 11:7 tells us.

Now, it's your time to tell us what Day it is. Hint: It's the last Day and the Day of Salvation and Judgment, BEFORE God is finished with ALL of His work of creating as Gen 2:2-3 REPEATS. Since God continues to create people in Christ Today, the Day when He ceases or rests from ALL of His work is FUTURE. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

 

[sojourner]

Dear sojourner, False since God has but 7 Days and the 7th Day is Eternity, since it has NO evening, and NO ending.

It's a literary device, formulated to help in the oral transmission of the myth. It's got nothing whatsoever remotely to do with science or cosmology.

 

[Aman777]

It's a literary device, formulated to help in the oral transmission of the myth. It's got nothing whatsoever remotely to do with science or cosmology.

Dear sojourner, False, UNLESS you can show us of ANY time in History when everything living was a Vegetarian as Gen 1:30 clearly states. The reason you cannot explain this verse is because you don't know that it's Prophecy of a future event. Do you? Go tell your teachers and listen to their excuses for not knowing this. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

 

[sojourner]

Dear sojourner, False, UNLESS you can show us of ANY time in History when everything living was a Vegetarian as Gen 1:30 clearly states. The reason you cannot explain this verse is because you don't know that it's Prophecy of a future event. Do you? Go tell your teachers and listen to their excuses for not knowing this. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

The creation myths aren't prophecy. You obviously know nothing of the markers of oral transmission, or you wouldn't have posted what you did here. You're out on an assumptive limb and can't get back. And when the bough breaks, the cradle will fall, and down will come Baby, cradle, and All.

Happy landings, old boy!

 

[s2a]

Dear Readers, The traditional religious teaching is that Adam was made the 6th Day, but that is not Scriptural, since he was formed from the dust of the ground on the THIRD Day. Gen 2:4-7 God Bless you all.



Dear JM2C, Sure. Scripture shows that man was "formed" (Heb-as a Potter molds the clay) on the THIRD DAy. Gen 2:4-7 It was AFTER the first Earth was made Gen 1:9-10 but BEFORE the plants, which also GREW on the THIRD Day. Gen 1:12 Don't belieeve me? Then read Gen 2:8-9 which confirms that man was formed BEFORE the Trees.

That is God's Truth because it agrees with Science, History and Scripture. It also exposes the Biggest Satanic Lie ever told and that is the False Theory of Evolution which ASSUMES that Humans evolved from the common ancestor of Apes. The first Human, the common ancestor of ALL other Humans, is Adam, and he was made by the Hands of Jesus Billions of years BEFORE the common ancestor of apes, and BEFORE the first Stars of our Cosmos formed and put forth their light on the 4th Day. Gen 1:16 It is IMPOSSIBLE for Humans to have evolved from the common ancestor of Apes.

Humans cannot evolve from Apes because we were made long BEFORE our Earth was made, which was the HOME of the common ancestor of Apes. That's God's Truth, which destroys the Lies being forced upon our little children in the Public Schools EVERY day. God Bless you, and forgive us for our offense to those little children who believe in Jesus. Matt 18:6

In Love,
Aman

OK. *rolls eyes*.

Just out of curiosity, according to Scripture as you see it as "truth", approximately now, what is the "age" of our planet? NO intended "offense" to the little children out there...just what do YOU relate as "truth" about the age of the planet? This is NOT a "trick" question. Your "answer" should do the rest...

 

[Aman777]

OK. *rolls eyes*.

Just out of curiosity, according to Scripture as you see it as "truth", approximately now, what is the "age" of our planet? NO intended "offense" to the little children out there...just what do YOU relate as "truth" about the age of the planet? This is NOT a "trick" question. Your "answer" should do the rest...

Der s2a, We live today at Gen 1:27 since God is STILL creating mankind in His Image, which is in Jesus Christ, Spiritually. This means that we still live on the present 6th Day. Man was "formed" of the dust of the ground on the THIRD Day, Gen 2:4-7, showing that it has been THREE of God's Days or Ages since the other HeavenS, including the present world, were made.

Conclusion. It's been some 13.7 Billion years since the Big Bang or the beginning of our Universe, in man's time, but only THREE Days or Ages in God's time. This means that each Day or Age in the Creation of the perfect Heaven is some 4.5 Billion years, in man's time, in length. Since it was some 9 Billion years from the beginning of our Cosmos until Planet Earth was formed and cooled, our Earth is some 4.53 billion years old, in man's time and 3 Days old, in God's Time.

That's God's Truth which agrees with Scripture, Science, and History. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

 

[Aman777]

The creation myths aren't prophecy. You obviously know nothing of the markers of oral transmission, or you wouldn't have posted what you did here. You're out on an assumptive limb and can't get back. And when the bough breaks, the cradle will fall, and down will come Baby, cradle, and All.

Happy landings, old boy!

Dear sojourner, Then tell us WHEN, in the past, ALL living creatures were Vegetarians as Gen 1:30 clearly shows. You CANNOT, even with your Seminary Training. I suppose they must have taught you to dismiss anyone who literally believes what Scripture says, and to ignore them when they show you that your "belief" is unsupported by Scripture.

The reason you CANNOT show us this event happening in the past, is that Gen 1:28-31 is PROHECY of a FUTURE event which will NOT take place until AFTER Jesus returns to this Planet and changes every creature into a Vegetarain as Isaiah 11 CONFIRMS. I suppose you will inform your teachers of their obvious ERROR? Or do you place their UnScriptural ideas ABOVE God's Holy Word? God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

 

[sojourner]

Dear sojourner, Then tell us WHEN, in the past, ALL living creatures were Vegetarians as Gen 1:30 clearly shows. You CANNOT, even with your Seminary Training. I suppose they must have taught you to dismiss anyone who literally believes what Scripture says, and to ignore them when they show you that your "belief" is unsupported by Scripture.

The reason you CANNOT show us this event happening in the past, is that Gen 1:28-31 is PROHECY of a FUTURE event which will NOT take place until AFTER Jesus returns to this Planet and changes every creature into a Vegetarain as Isaiah 11 CONFIRMS. I suppose you will inform your teachers of their obvious ERROR? Or do you place their UnScriptural ideas ABOVE God's Holy Word? God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

The reason "I cannot" is because it never happened. The creation myth is not prophecy. That assessment is simply incongruent with what we know about its source material.

Oh, and you needn't try to use my seminary education, or my professors, as troll-bait. I'm perfectly complacent with the quality and standards of my education. What bible kindergarten did you attend, BTW? Or were you sick the day they taught the bible at bible school?

 

[Aman777]

The reason "I cannot" is because it never happened. The creation myth is not prophecy. That assessment is simply incongruent with what we know about its source material.

Oh, and you needn't try to use my seminary education, or my professors, as troll-bait. I'm perfectly complacent with the quality and standards of my education. What bible kindergarten did you attend, BTW? Or were you sick the day they taught the bible at bible school?

Dear sojourner, A preacher who doesn't believe the Bible? How do you support your views with anything but Bluff? Do your listeners know what the Bible teaches, or are they able to read? You THINK no one can see your Scriptural ignorance that Genesis 1:28-31 is future to our time, but you're wrong.

Anyone who can read the fulfillment of the prophecy of "every living creature" becoming a Vegetarian, as Gen 1:30 says, will NEVER believe your tripe. Here is the fulfillment of your "myth" of every creature becoming a Vegetarian, which I call UnBelief.

Isa 11:7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
Isa 65:25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD.


I listed two verses and now it's your time to show us that Gen 1:30 is just myth, and has already happened or show us that it's just a Myth. I don't believe you. Show me.

Gen 1:30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

IF what you say is True, then you should be able to show us this event happened in the past, but you CANNOT. Admit it. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

 

[sojourner]

Dear sojourner, A preacher who doesn't believe the Bible? How do you support your views with anything but Bluff? Do your listeners know what the Bible teaches, or are they able to read? You THINK no one can see your Scriptural ignorance that Genesis 1:28-31 is future to our time, but you're wrong.

Anyone who can read the fulfillment of the prophecy of "every living creature" becoming a Vegetarian, as Gen 1:30 says, will NEVER believe your tripe. Here is the fulfillment of your "myth" of every creature becoming a Vegetarian, which I call UnBelief.

Isa 11:7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
Isa 65:25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD.


I listed two verses and now it's your time to show us that Gen 1:30 is just myth, and has already happened or show us that it's just a Myth. I don't believe you. Show me.

Gen 1:30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

IF what you say is True, then you should be able to show us this event happened in the past, but you CANNOT. Admit it. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

Again, it didn't happen. You're using Isa. to prove Genesis. It doesn't work that way. You seem to know less and less all the time. Pity.

 

[outhouse]

but you're wrong

You are in no position, to tell anyone they are wrong or right.


You carry no credibility at all, and your view outlawed from school children so that we do not poison their minds.

 

[Aman777]

Again, it didn't happen. You're using Isa. to prove Genesis. It doesn't work that way. You seem to know less and less all the time. Pity.

Dear sojourner, Since BOTH Genesis and Isaiah were authored by the Holy Spirit, your view is weak, unsupported, and the same as that of an UnBeliever. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

 

[sojourner]

Dear sojourner, Since BOTH Genesis and Isaiah were authored by the Holy Spirit, your view is weak, unsupported, and the same as that of an UnBeliever. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

Since neither Genesis nor Isaiah were "authored by the Holy Spirit," your view is weak and unsupported. Even if it were, you still can't exegete one text from another text.

Thank you for lumping me in with "unbelievers." I have several compatriots here on the forum who are fine individuals, yet are unbelievers -- and several personal friends, as well. I'd rather be lumped in with them who take a reasonable view, rather than the likes of you, Fred Phelps, Pat Robertson, James Dobson and Jerry Falwell.

BTW: What's wrong with unbelievers, and why do you relegate me there, as if it's some kind of insult? Are unbelievers second-class citizens, in your view? Or less than human?

 

[Aman777]

Since neither Genesis nor Isaiah were "authored by the Holy Spirit," your view is weak and unsupported. Even if it were, you still can't exegete one text from another text.

Thank you for lumping me in with "unbelievers." I have several compatriots here on the forum who are fine individuals, yet are unbelievers -- and several personal friends, as well. I'd rather be lumped in with them who take a reasonable view, rather than the likes of you, Fred Phelps, Pat Robertson, James Dobson and Jerry Falwell.

BTW: What's wrong with unbelievers, and why do you relegate me there, as if it's some kind of insult? Are unbelievers second-class citizens, in your view? Or less than human?

Dear sojourner, Nothing is wrong with them except their UnBelief in God's Holy Word. While they pretend to be Bible believing Christians, their actions show that they change God's Truth into Fables. 2Ti 4:4 It's the SAME with UnBelievers who don't even claim to be Christians. They don't believe Scripture either, but you seem to think, as a Minister, that others should listen to you, with no support but your own personal opinion, which changes daily. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman