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Alabama passes bill making some transgender healthcare a felony

Wildswanderer

Veteran Member
And yet they are actual examples of how we tamper with "nature" all the time. Your refusal to acknowledge that, aside. I hope you don't wear glasses, because that would be "tampering with nature." If you want to be all natural, you should walk around not being able to see anything.
Again that's something that improves my life and health situation, not something that takes away from my bodies natural development that is working correctly. ... All these examples that you guys are using are ridiculous.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Again that's something that improves my life and health situation, not something that takes away from my bodies natural development that is working correctly. ... All these examples that you guys are using are ridiculous.
No, it is your "logic" being used against you. You refuse to learn the science behind transgenderism so of course you cannot see how your arguments are the same as that example.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
You are leaving it up to kids who can't decide what underwear they want today to decide on their gender? Kids who can't even decide where they should live, and have to be told to bath and brush their teeth making life altering decisions? Lunacy.
I don't know what kids you're hanging around with, but all the kids I know are perfectly capable of choosing their own underwear. I mean, if we're being completely silly here. :rolleyes:

What I mean is, leave it up to the child, their parents and doctor(s) to decide what is right for them, given their situation. Why do you think anybody needs your input on their medical decisions? Should I come sit in the doctor's office with you next time you get your prostate checked, just to make sure it's going the way I think it should?
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
Because I'm a adult and as such I'm legally responsible if I have a child to care for. It's literally my job to make their medical decisions for them.
Excellent. It is the job of the parents to make medical decisions for their children, not the government. Of course these decisions should be made in consultation with doctors and other experts, but it should be up to the parents.

I don’t trust politicians to have the child’s best interest in mind.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Again that's something that improves my life and health situation, not something that takes away from my bodies natural development that is working correctly. ... All these examples that you guys are using are ridiculous.
It doesn't matter if glasses improve your quality of life - it is tampering with nature. Which you say you are against. So you'd better toss those glasses in the trash and start walking into walls.

The fact of the matter is we tamper with nature all the time, on a daily basis. Your refusal to willfully acknowledge as much, aside.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
It doesn't matter if glasses improve your quality of life - it is tampering with nature. Which you say you are against. So you'd better toss those glasses in the trash and start walking into walls.

The fact of the matter is we tamper with nature all the time, on a daily basis. Your refusal to willfully acknowledge as much, aside.
It is okay if I tamper with nature. It is immoral if you tamper with nature. And I might have to get some laws passed to stop you from doing so.
 

Wildswanderer

Veteran Member
Excellent. It is the job of the parents to make medical decisions for their children, not the government. Of course these decisions should be made in consultation with doctors and other experts, but it should be up to the parents.

I don’t trust politicians to have the child’s best interest in mind.
You seem to have forgotten all the other child endangerment laws that parents can't legally circumvent.
 

Wildswanderer

Veteran Member
I don't know what kids you're hanging around with, but all the kids I know are perfectly capable of choosing their own underwear. I mean, if we're being completely silly here. :rolleyes:

What I mean is, leave it up to the child, their parents and doctor(s) to decide what is right for them, given their situation. Why do you think anybody needs your input on their medical decisions? Should I come sit in the doctor's office with you next time you get your prostate checked, just to make sure it's going the way I think it should?
A prostate exam isn't comparable to abusing a child by allowing him or her to mutilate themselves.
 
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