Anti-gay baker now takes stand against birthdays for trans people

[InChrist]

I have read them. I still read them when it’s necessary to point out someone’s errors.

When you read them do you ask God to give you His wisdom and understanding?

 

[InChrist]

Actually the it's all about the topic. He is applying the old law to his Christian walk.

Who?

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

It's not my interpretation. The scriptures interpret themselves and according to the Bible there is only one race...the human race.

Sure. That's why there's half a million different strains of Christianity. Not to mention Jews and Muslims.

 

[suncowiam]

I agree it's personal. It's personal on the part of liberals who are playing the "get the Christian baker" game. It's just a stupid political game people play.

And hating homosexuals on a basis that can never be proven is even better?

What's the difference between faith and delusion?

Let's be specific about this. It's not that the baker is Christian. It's because the baker chooses to discriminate against a specific set of people that have shown no harm to society. This is just plain ignorance and hate in the guise of religious right.

If you're defending the Christian's right to discriminate, then don't complain and whine when Christians are being discriminated against.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

May not be new, but it is not biblical. The Bible reveals only one race...human race.

And they would say your interpretation is not Biblical, and argue the Bible does state there are multiple races of human. After all, where did all those people in Genesis come from if we only started with Adam and Eve? Was the Land of Nod occupied by others before Cain and it not recorded in the Bible? The Bible also states there were Nephilim. And, of course, it states over and over that the Jews are "god's chosen people." And there is clearly a preference--and even mandate for the Jews--for marrying within their own tribes (this is especially common in Christian views that prohibit interracial marriage).

 

[Shadow Wolf]

If you're defending the Christian's right to discriminate, then don't complain and whine when Christians are being discriminated against.

If I had the money to waste I would open a bakery just to say "no Christian marriages" just to highlight how stupid and one sided this whole thing is. And oh my god the Religious Right, how they would wail and weep that the world is out to get them, that everyone hates them, that they are persecuted and systemically discriminated against, and it's a sign the Tribulation draws near.

 

[sojourner]

It's not a trans person's birthday is wrong but because the cake was celebrating what to him violates his conscious. It's nothing personal. Not sure why liberals don't understand it's not personal. Just a matter of conscious.

Not sure why the liberals don’t understand that having blacks sit in the back of the bus isn’t personal. Just a matter of conscience.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Not sure why the liberals don’t understand that having blacks sit in the back of the bus isn’t personal. Just a matter of conscience.

Really, I think our language is mixed up a bit because the Religious Right are the ones who consistently act like "snowflakes" and expect the world to revolve around and cater to their religious whims, viewing their personal religious beliefs and more worthy of running society than the public rights granted and bestowed upon all.

 

[sojourner]

You can't argue freedom while expressing freedom in the end you are a hypocrite no matter what.

No. Freedom was never intended to extend to discriminatory practices.

 

[InChrist]

Sure. That's why there's half a million different strains of Christianity. Not to mention Jews and Muslims.

I realize that, but the scriptures are self-interpreting, meaning that God has an intended meaning and message ...if one is willing to seek His mind rather than impose their own ideas. All people are imperfect so their interpretation or understanding will vary, in some cases to the extreme. Nevertheless, that does not invalidate the fact that God has specific and intended meaning through His word which He wants to reveal to those reading and seeking to know.

 

[74x12]

And hating homosexuals on a basis that can never be proven is even better?

What's the difference between faith and delusion?

Let's be specific about this. It's not that the baker is Christian. It's because the baker chooses to discriminate against a specific set of people that have shown no harm to society. This is just plain ignorance and hate in the guise of religious right.

If you're defending the Christian's right to discriminate, then don't complain and whine when Christians are being discriminated against.

I'm not complaining our whining. I will defend those who are being bullied by liberals.

 

[74x12]

Not sure why the liberals don’t understand that having blacks sit in the back of the bus isn’t personal. Just a matter of conscience.

This just shows your ignorance of the issues.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I will defend those who are being bullied by liberals.

Uhm, the baker isn't the one who was bullied. Enforcing the law and upholding that all are equal under the law is not bullying. When you serve the public, you serve the public.

 

[Sir Doom]

For my part, no one should have to carry a special list of goods and services they're allowed to have and from where. That's essentially what will have to happen if we take the baker's side in this. Either that or we subject the average consumer to surprise humiliation as they are denied service based on unknown restrictions. Ladies, prepare to cover your hair entering a Muslim owned establishment! Naturally, we need police spot-checks to ensure every female carries ample hair coverage at all times just in case. Either that or we'll have to mandate posted rules of conduct for businesses of all kinds.

Also, I've heard armbands are popular.

 

[Sir Doom]

Further, let's not forget that granting unilateral discrimination based on religious preference sets precedent to do so secularly, as well. Thus, it would become crucial to carry your voter registration denoting your party affiliation if you wish to eat at this Denny's or that.

 

[Sir Doom]

I've decided to start a religion that believes God wishes me to round up to the nearest dollar on every credit or debit transaction. The universal sign for agreeance with this principle will be handing me a plastic rectangle roughly 1mm thick with cryptic symbols stamped into it. Thus, I will know my customers respect my religious freedom in this regard.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

I realize that, but the scriptures are self-interpreting, meaning that God has an intended meaning and message ...if one is willing to seek His mind rather than impose their own ideas. All people are imperfect so their interpretation or understanding will vary, in some cases to the extreme. Nevertheless, that does not invalidate the fact that God has specific and intended meaning through His word which He wants to reveal to those reading and seeking to know.

Rather invalidates your earlier claim, then, doesn't it.

 

[Cacotopia]

No. Freedom was never intended to extend to discriminatory practices.

Except that is is a by product of freedom, some view it as a freedom to discriminate. Except they call it by a different name, expressing their religious convictions.

 

[InChrist]

Rather invalidates your earlier claim, then, doesn't it.

How so?

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

This just shows your ignorance of the issues.

No, it show's you're unwilling to apply logic to this issue. If you acknowledge it's wrong to discriminate against one group for their basic state of being, you should be able to see it's wrong to do so for any. To do anything else requires special pleading or cherry picking.