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Anti-Islamic Sentiment on RF

Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
Trust me GOD loves to hate the sins and the sinners. He also loves the haters of such WMD destructive sins. Just as satan hates the pure and rightouse. Satan love the haters of the pure and rightouse.

I cannot trust this as I have a very different idea of God. God is only Love. Hate is born of ignorance and ignorance is the root of all 'evil'.
 

JMorris

Democratic Socialist
No, there is a difference between calling a Muslim member foolish and criticizing the ideas of Islam. There is a difference between calling a homosexual member abhorrent and criticizing homosexuality itself. And it seems you are unable to recognize this difference.

you dont seem to understand the fact that Islam is a choice, and homosexuality is not. should i criticize "the act of having brown skin"? there is as much validity in criticizing homosexuality, as there is in criticizing a person's skin color. so, allow me to correctly use the idea of moral equivalency. you & maro, and most other muslims here on RF are morally equivalent to racists. and am i to show tolerance & respect to racists?
You responded to maro by calling her names not her ideas or anything.

am i to respond to every single worthless idea i come across? im sorry, i dont have that much time in any given day. but if i come across an idea that is uncivilized & irrational, i will point it out as such.
 

301ouncer

Well-Known Member
Which comrades and forefathers of mine showed hate toward Muslims?

I don't hate Muslims. I don't even hate your ideas. I simply disagree with some of them.

I do not know how to distinguish between a 'true' Muslim as I do not know what a 'true' Muslim is. All I have is examples of behaviour and attitudes from muslims that I come into contact with. What I have been able to establish is that Muslims in general do not condone mass killing and terrorism, generally speaking.

Do you change your statements as you go along or get confronted or replied to? Well I never do. Here:

What confuses me is why people have such strong sentiments against homosexual people. You might disapprove of someone's actions but why hate? Why kill? Why do so many people have so much hate? I have always viewed hate as a sign of being far from God or far from psychological health.
 
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.lava

Veteran Member
Because we collect statistics.
And at least we don't kill the poor victims to save their family's honor.

wow, we're on fire again huh? nobody's killing anyone here and no Muslim is OK with honor kilings as far as i know

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Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
Do you change your statements as you go along or get confronted or replied to? Well I never do. Here:

What confuses me is why people have such strong sentiments against homosexual people. You might disapprove of someone's actions but why hate? Why kill? Why do so many people have so much hate? I have always viewed hate as a sign of being far from God or far from psychological health.

I have trouble understand what you want to say. I did not see how your answers have satisfied my questions. It is likely a linguistic problem that is causing misinterpretation but I respectfully ask you to make your meaning clear to me.
 

.lava

Veteran Member
Oh really. I hope you go back and change that. God loves hitler, bush or sharoon or husni muharak?

yes, really. no creature is created to be hated by its own creator. if someone commit sins, he is still invited to ask for forgiveness not because he was hated, friend. even if Bush realized what he's done and regret it sincerely, you can't say he wouldn't be forgiven. forgiveness is for sinners, for all of us because we are all loved

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Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
Oh really. I hope you go back and change that. God loves hitler, bush or sharoon or husni muharak?

Why wouldn't he love them? These people are a product of their environment. They act in ignorance. Love is not the same as approval. When they die, does not your God make them pay for their sins and then bring them to Him lovingly? Anyone can change and become better. Even Hitler is capable of goodness. I'm sure God knows this and loves him just as he loves everything of his creation.
 

301ouncer

Well-Known Member
I have trouble understand what you want to say. I did not see how your answers have satisfied my questions. It is likely a linguistic problem that is causing misinterpretation but I respectfully ask you to make your meaning clear to me.

I did not answer you yet. I only referenced your contradiction in your statement and the actions of your forefathers.

Now. You hindu? your forefathers from India? why kill and oppress the muslims in kashmire? why hate muslims? why kill woman and childeren of islam in kashmere? why destory Mosques in india?

This is my answer to your forefathers and your statement of us having hate and the urge to kill.
 

301ouncer

Well-Known Member
Why wouldn't he love them? These people are a product of their environment. They act in ignorance. Love is not the same as approval. When they die, does not your God make them pay for their sins and then bring them to Him lovingly? Anyone can change and become better. Even Hitler is capable of goodness. I'm sure God knows this and loves him just as he loves everything of his creation.

No sorry. They abide in the blazing fire forever eternally. They will wish to die but they will not be able to. They will wish to turn into dust but they will not be able to.

Sorry this is not my punishment this is GOD's. Sorry no lovey dovey and no compassion mumbassion.
 

Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
I did not answer you yet. I only referenced your contradiction in your statement and the actions of your forefathers.

Now. You hindu? your forefathers from India? why kill and oppress the muslims in kashmire? why hate muslims? why kill woman and childeren of islam in kashmere? why destory Mosques in india?

This is my answer to your forefathers and your statement of us having hate and the urge to kill.

Now it makes sense. Actually I am not even a little bit Indian. My religion does not determine my race. I am part english and part italian. So I have not inherited hate from my forefathers toward Muslims.

I think that it is wrong of any Hindus in India to terrorise Muslims just as I think it is wrong for Muslims to do the same to Hindus and even it was wrong for them to invade India when they did. Both have been stupid and wrong.
 

Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
No sorry. They abide in the blazing fire forever eternally. They will wish to die but they will not be able to. They will wish to turn into dust but they will not be able to.

Sorry this is not my punishment this is GOD's. Sorry no lovey dovey and no compassion mumbassion.

Other Muslims have told me that hell is only a temporary place for anybody. I am confused now.
 

301ouncer

Well-Known Member
Now it makes sense. Actually I am not even a little bit Indian. My religion does not determine my race. I am part english and part italian. So I have not inherited hate from my forefathers toward Muslims.

I think that it is wrong of any Hindus in India to terrorise Muslims just as I think it is wrong for Muslims to do the same to Hindus and even it was wrong for them to invade India when they did. Both have been stupid and wrong.

Ok. Why the hate in algeria? why the concentration camps of millions in the desert of algeria? why mosoulini and the italians hate muslims? Why Barascoli hate the islamic way of life and he said his italian way of life is superior to islam.

Why barascoli sleep with models? why have bath and swim parties with models? and why have an orgy out of wedlock? is this superior to ISLAM?
 

.lava

Veteran Member
Other Muslims have told me that hell is only a temporary place for anybody. I am confused now.

who told you that? there are many Muslims who believe it, like you go to hell and burn until you pay for your sins, then you enter heaven. i can't say that's true. according to Qur'an, whoever enters hell to be punished, couldn't leave. in other words, everyone enters hell -both people who earn heaven and hell- but people who earn heaven only enter to see hell so that they could be fully thankful for their survival, the rest enters for punishment and remains there for good. that's how i know it

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Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
Ok. Why the hate in algeria? why the concentration camps of millions in the desert of algeria? why mosoulini and the italians hate muslims? Why Barascoli hate the islamic way of life and he said his italian way of life is superior to islam.

Why barascoli sleep with models? why have bath and swim parties with models? and why have an orgy out of wedlock? is this superior to ISLAM?

I am not sure what you are getting at here as I do not think that any of these people are superior to Muslims.
I can answer this though: when people act out of hate or cause others deliberate suffering it is because they are ignorant and spiritually immature.
 

Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
who told you that? there are many Muslims who believe it, like you go to hell and burn until you pay for your sins, then you enter heaven. i can't say that's true. according to Qur'an, whoever enters hell to be punished, couldn't leave. in other words, everyone enters hell -both people who earn heaven and hell- but people who earn heaven only enter to see hell so that they could be fully thankful for their survival, the rest enters for punishment and remains there for good. that's how i know it

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Oh ok. That's much different to what I thought but good to have it clarified.
Is this because you are under Satan's control? Or is God simply unforgiving? Why is it impossible to redeem yourself from the mistakes of a single life that is so utterly influenced by the conditioning environment?
 
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