Anti-Islamic Sentiment on RF

[Aquitaine]

LOL, I disagree, it's typically anti-Islamic sentiment. Calling us irrational and making a stupid lie like Islam leads to rape more...

The last talk was about the Western values in general, I believe.
Plus, the thread went through a wide range of topics...that, at the end, revolve around Muslims.

Okay then, but I've never said such things about Islam leading to more rape (not that I'm saying you've accussed me or anything), I'm just here purely to try and understand this anti-Gay argument that's being put forward.

 

[Autodidact]

Consenting adults can do a lot of things in private like incest. This won't prevent from viewing them as immoral and unacceptable practices. And if it was private, so how would any one know about this? So adultery and sodomy inside a dark closed room is none of the society's business, this is something between them (the sinners) and God but when it comes outside, this is a different story.

This is the sort of thing that makes us suspect you of moral retardation. If you can't distinguish between activities that are harmful, and love between two adults, your morality is at a primitive level.

 

[maro]

two adults having sex in front of school children is no longer a situation solely involving two consenting adults. its a situation involving two consenting adults, and a group of non-consenting children..

Similarily , when two consenting adults allow four eye witnesses to witness their action or intent of adltery or sodomy....they are harming the whole muslim society...so,they will not be tolerated not for their private action ,but for avowing it in the society

I guess both situations are matched....both involve more than the consenting adults to conquer the lives of other non consenting individuals

Thanks for clarifying my point

 

[monta]

so when we talk about ' harm ' here....it's not physical harm of course....it's another type of harm that most of you seem to ignore while talking about the ' harmless actions of the consenting adults '

you know what type of harm is it ? I think that was not4me's question

There are numerous actions between consenting adults that are not suitable for children to watch being performed, surgery immediately springs to mind, it is not immoral but not suitable for a child to watch. I believe Storm said between consenting adults, and not between consenting adults and children. Some of your points have had validity, but this has weakened your argument considerably imo.

 

[JMorris]

JMorris, you have done nothing here except name calling and being disrespectful. This is a good example how threads turn into uncivilized arguments.

not4me, you and most of the other muslims here on RF do nothing but call homosexuals abominations & abhorrent. the is a good example of uncivilized & irrational opinions. and why so many threads become uncivilized arguements.

 

[Sahar]

This is the sort of thing that makes us suspect you of moral retardation. If you can't distinguish between activities that are harmful, and love between two adults, your morality is at a primitive level.

Ok, thanks.

 

[Aquitaine]

What does WMD stand for in this context?

My best guess is honestly "Weapons of Mass Destruction". Everytime I see him write about the "WMD destructive gay" I envisage this:

 

[301ouncer]

your morality is at a primitive level.

I believe pillow munching is also your morality at a primitive level.

 

[maro]

Yeah, I think I do. I'm gonna take a long shot and presume the "harm" is some sort of Psychological mental scarring, again, what's that got to do with......

Wait, what actually is your point?! Is all this supposed to be some well-written argument against Homo-sexuality or something?

I honestly don't understand where this is going.

Accordingly ,avowing sodomy in the society is both psycological and spiritual harm that may not be acknowledged by materalists who think in terms of 'physical harm' only

As muslims , what causes us spiritual harm is more devastating than what causes physical harm....i don't expect you to understand what i am talking about since you are not a muslim...i just wanted to let you know were we're coming from

 

[JMorris]

I guess both situations are matched....both involve more than the consenting adults to conquer the lives of other non consenting individuals

Thanks for clarifying my point

if thats what you chose to hear, i can only assume you lack an adult level of reading comprehension, or that you are going to lie & pretend that is what i said. neither would surprise me.

your going to have to prove how homosexuals wish to force all societies to allow them to have sex in public. your not going to, but i know thats not going to stop you from trying to. i wonder what lies your going to tell in order to try and make your point?

 

[301ouncer]

Accordingly ,avowing sodomy in the society is both psycological and spiritual harm that may not be acknowledged by materalists who think in terms of 'physical harm' only

As muslims , what causes us spiritual harm is more devastating than what causes physical harm....i don't expect you to understand what i am talking about since you are not a muslim...i just wanted to let you know were we're coming from

Thank you sister. You have taught me some new stuff today. Indeed Muslim Woman were the first scholars of our nation.

 

[monta]

I believe pillow munching is also your morality at a primitive level.

Are you purporting to represent Islam?

 

[301ouncer]

Are you purporting to represent Islam?

Are you purporting to represent 21st century civilised beacon of freedom, democracy and liberty.

I thought that some here thought of me as some barefooted arab with some barbaric believe system that brought rape to your socities. So you why you looking upto me as a moral guidance to you? Oh not you but your comrade.

 

[Sahar]

not4me, you and most of the other muslims here on RF do nothing but call homosexuals abominations & abhorrent. the is a good example of uncivilized & irrational opinions. and why so many threads become uncivilized arguements.

Listen dude, there is a difference between stating my opinion while calling you a foolish person just for the fact I disagree or don't like what you say and on the other hand having the same debate without resorting to such stuff. If you and others want to turn the whole thing into insults and name calling, then we would never be able to have a good debate and I am certainly out.
If expressing myself honestly without turning anything into personal or name calling is uncivilized, then you shouldn't be here. And I could tell you the same, just expressing your view on homosexuality as being moral blablabla is uncivilized. Then let all the opposing opinions be uncivilized.

That's why I like certain members here, they teach me a lot like Mr Spinkles and Kai. No matter how much we disagree, they don't resort to this low level of name calling and such.

 

[monta]

Are you purporting to represent 21st century civilised beacon of freedom, democracy and liberty.

I thought that some here thought of me as some barefooted arab with some barbaric believe system that brought rape to your socities. Oh not you but your comrade.

You forgot to answer the question, are you purporting to represent Islam?

 

[Aquitaine]

Accordingly ,avowing sodomy in the society is both psycological and spiritual harm that may not be acknowledged by materalists who think in terms of 'physical harm' only

As muslims , what causes us spiritual harm is more devastating than what causes physical harm....i don't expect you to understand what i am talking about since you are not a muslim...i just wanted to let you know were we're coming from

Yeah but no offence, but "spiritual" harm is about as clear and objective as abstract Art. Define "spiritual" then provide me some objective scientific data that shows a clear link between exposure to Homo-sexual activity and "spiritual" harm - whatever that is. Yada yada yada, actually don't bother. My point is that, to put it nicely - it's only mythical superstitious belief (religion), stop playing it as if it's all pure fact. Regardless of whatever any religious text says, it's nothing more than superstition, with very little or no basis in fact.

And srsly, witnessing Homo-sexuality in Public i.e like holding hands or kissing is "Psychologically damaging" to you?

 

[301ouncer]

You forgot to answer the question, are you purporting to represent Islam?

You forgot to answer too, are you purporting to represent our beacon of hope in the world?

 

[maro]

if thats what you chose to hear, i can only assume you lack an adult level of reading comprehension, or that you are going to lie & pretend that is what i said. neither would surprise me.

your going to have to prove how homosexuals wish to force all societies to allow them to have sex in public. your not going to, but i know thats not going to stop you from trying to. i wonder what lies your going to tell in order to try and make your point?

dude , sodomy is not punishable in islam unless there are 4 eye witness available for it...i never clamied homosexuals wish to force..bla bla ,so don't put words in my mouth

and btw , people with strong arguments don't need to depend on continous personal attacks...but you seem unable to make a single post without them...not a very good sign for you :flirt:

 

[Sahar]

and btw , people with strong arguments don't need to depend on continous personal attacks...but you seem unable to make a single post without them...

Exactly.

 

[monta]

You forgot to answer too, are you purporting to represent our beacon of hope in the world?

And still you don't answer, are you purporting to represent Islam?