Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
Really, it's a belief system? What are some of the beliefs involved?
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Are Atheists just close minded Agnostics?
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Really, it's a belief system? What are some of the beliefs involved?
"Agnosticism" is not the agnostic, nor any particular agnostics. Same goes for "theism" not being theists, and "atheism" not being atheists. Different boat, different float.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
And if you find that shocking, atheism is even less. Atheism is just not believing one thing. Doesn't take much to make a label sometimes.
riley2112
Active Member
I see it as just a claim. Christians are just people that claim there is a God. What be the problem with that?:seesaw:
The belief that there is a possibility that God exists. To be an Atheist, you must not believe that there is any chance that God could be real what so ever.
You can't disbelieve there is a God and then say there is a possibility I am wrong and be an Atheist.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
Sure you can.
I don't hold the belief that a god or gods exist, but that doesn't mean it's not possible. Not holding belief in god is what makes me an atheist. It's that simple.
Are other people really so arrogant with their beliefs, that they think they can't be wrong? Scary.
I'm sure you don't.
I'd hope everyone would be so concerned.
Yes, and other groups like religions get things done. While I applaud your individuality. The individual working alone can only accomplish so much. Quality is often stampeded by quantity. While I'm sure you've no need to broaden the definition for political expediency, I'd suspect it's on the mind of a few Atheists who recognize the importance of political clout.
Sure you can.
You can also, god forbid, be theist and acknowledges you could be wrong. It would just be weak faith.
Theism seems like the one thing people will be certain they know when everything else usually gets scrutinized.
That's usually the way with worldviews.
AmbiguousGuy
Well-Known Member
Actually, I can be both at once. It's easy. Let me know if you'd like to discuss it in depth.
Songbird
She rules her life like a bird in flight
I'm not sure agnostics themselves describe agnosticism as a belief system. What describes this system?
I guess a person can call themselves anything they like.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
They believe by calling themselves "agnostic," that they will not draw the ire of either side - that by not picking a side, they will not be in conflict with atheists or theists. Well, guess again chumps, everybody hates you and your wishy-washy ways. Pick a side already!
Songbird
She rules her life like a bird in flight
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
I guess a person can refuse to accept valid definitions of words if they like.
An Agnostic does not see any evidence for God so therefore does not believe in God but they do not disbelieve either. They think there is a possibility that either could be true.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnosticism
Songbird
She rules her life like a bird in flight
FINE. I'm a sapphist atheist Bahai Muslim Hindu.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
So they don't hold the belief that god(s) exist?
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
This explains so much.