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[Link]

So how do I know if I go to Hell or is it unknown as such?

LOL You can asses yourself a lot better, she hardly knows you.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

LOL You can asses yourself a lot better, she hardly knows you.

No, what are the objective true marks for going to Hell in Islam. If I can't know them, then how can I avoid them? And are there any rules for some kind of forgiveness for past wrongs?
And please keep it simple and just explain it.

 

[muhammad_isa]

A line that only stretches eternally in one direction is still eternal.

That hardly deserves a reply

eternal: lasting or existing forever; without end.

 

[muhammad_isa]

So how do I know if I go to Hell or is it unknown as such?

Yes, it is unknown.
However, we do know what the path to hell looks like.
eg. it is based on bad intention and rebellion

If a person dies in this state, it is very likely that they will taste hell, even if it is only for a little while.

 

[KWED]

Do you have a question? Please ask it.

I have asked plenty of questions but you keep avoiding them (or you're just rude).

"The truth does not mind being questioned, but a lie does not like to be challenged".

 

[England my lionheart]

Islam was sent as a mercy for mankind. Submission to the only one God, the Creator of the universe, the only one worthy of worship. Our duty upon this earth is to worship Him although we do not see Him, but we know He sees us.

If you have any questions regarding Islam, send a post here or in private and I will try to get back to you as soon as I am available.

Thank you,

MyM

Why was Muhammad allowed more wives than other Muslims?.

 

[Link]

No, what are the objective true marks for going to Hell in Islam. If I can't know them, then how can I avoid them? And are there any rules for some kind of forgiveness for past wrongs?
And please keep it simple and just explain it.

You can know the objective truths and measure yourself on them. Others can know the objective measures, but cannot know if you met them or not as they don't know you.

It's quite simple, you are sincere to God and strive for him, you will be guided and go to heaven. Whether you start as an Atheist or Hindu or whatever, if you sincerely want to know whether God exists or not and search for him and are in love with God even before knowing he exists and want to find him, then God doesn't veil himself from creation except their actions are for other then him.

If you are running away from God and satisfied with temporary life and don't want to know God exists nor know who he is or the proper door to enter his guidance by, then you will go to hell.

I don't know which one you are and so I can't tell.

A person searching for God and his Messenger, death meets them and they are approaching to know God and Messenger and striving to find, God rewards them for the search even if they didn't reach God and his Messenger if death takes them while they are heading towards them.

No one can say you are this or that.

And there is also concept of those without power of faith or disbelief and those who's affair is with God (in between faith and disbelief).

I don't know you enough, but you can see measures of Quran they are clear, and asses yourself.

 

[KWED]

This thread was supposed to be for those who are sincere in learning about Islam yet people seem to have hijacked it into mockness.

No. People have merely asked you questions and raised points about Islam that you seem unable to cope with.

If you are sincere in learning about Islam, you would approach different views, challenge and criticism with an open mind. Instead you simply assume everyone else is wrong and respond with insults and denial.

 

[Mock Turtle]

I'm sorry but intelligence to me does not involved me coming from apes. In Islam, Allah says,
“O mankind! Be dutiful to your Lord, Who created you from a single person (Adam), and from him (Adam) He created his wife [Hawwa (Eve)], and from them both He created many men and women”
[al-Nisaa’ 4:1]

We didn't come from apes. Did you not read that. We evolved, as did all other life, and we happen to share a branch of evolution with other primates. Do you seriously think that with all the evidence that scientists of various persuasion have managed to amass that they are just joking as to such? You really are making yourself to be less intelligent if you just stick to what is written in religious texts, particularly when they seem to go against modern science. Many with religious beliefs manage to incorporate science into their worlds with no trouble, so what is it about your belief that makes this impossible? Because you stick to literal interpretations? Bad move.

 

[KWED]

I hope people read the whole chapter, that contextualizes that verse, expands on it, etc.
Anyone want to read chapter 60 and tell this guy why he should read whole chapter? LMAO.

I have read the whole chapter. There is nothing in it which negates or abrogates the statement that Abraham's "hatred and enmity towards disbelievers until they accept Allah is a good example to follow".

BTW, nice attempt to get someone else to come up with an argument for you.
Maybe explain yourself...if you can.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Prejudices are typical and Pride normal when defending your status.

My irony meter just exploded.

Imagine if all the billions of Muslims in this world were the way you said, the world wouldn't stand a chance.

There aren't "billions" of muslims in the world.

 

[Link]

I have read the whole chapter. There is nothing in it which negates or abrogates the statement that Abraham's "hatred and enmity towards disbelievers until they accept Allah is a good example to follow".

BTW, nice attempt to get someone else to come up with an argument for you.
Maybe explain yourself...if you can.

The people of Abraham prosecuted believers and were destroyed by God (like Lot's people).

The Quran is saying as long as they prosecute you, you should be like that.

Then says he may bring love between them (meaning they may stop prosecuting you or war may end).

Then says he has not forbidden this love from people who did not fight them, etc and even makes it a case of justice to love them and act of kindness.

It says only forbidden from this relationship are people who fought them and backed each other up on expelling them etc, no one else. It ends with no having a welayah with those who God's wrath is upon, and this means intensely being attached to them and loving them in this sense.

But the sense of kindness and compassion and fellowship, the Quran emphasizes this was only forbidden to a certain people because of how they prosecuted believers. Ibrahim's (a) followers were prosecuted and there was ultimatum believe in God or be destroyed and so they were warned in that regard. We take example from their harsh stance for those who prosecute us, but, the condition is not people have to believe, as the chapter goes to say it maybe he puts' love between the believers and their enemies.

There now do some homework with other problems you made in your head since I did some for you.

 

[KWED]

In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful. . O you who believe! do not take My enemy and your enemy for friends:

So you admit that Muslims consider disbelievers as your enemy.

would you offer them love while they deny what has come to you of the truth, ...and whoever of you does this, he indeed has gone astray from the straight path.

So any Muslim who is nice to disbelievers has left Islam.

If they find you, they will be your enemies, and will stretch forth towards you their hands and their tongues with evil,

So not just your enemy, but we are evil as well!

Indeed, there is for you a good example in Ibrahim and those with him when they said to their people: Surely we are clear of you and of what you serve besides Allah; we declare ourselves to be clear of you, and enmity and hatred have appeared between us and you forever until you believe in Allah alone

It may be that Allah will bring about friendship between you and those whom you hold to be your enemies among them;

Yet more confirmation of Allah controlling events.

Allah does not forbid you respecting those who have not made war against you on account of (your) religion, and have not driven you forth from your homes, that you show them kindness and deal with them justly; surely Allah loves the doers of justice.

Note that Allah does not say you must, or even should treat such people kindly and justly. He only "does not forbid it". That is a very odd turn of phrase. It's the sort of thing you say when you don't really want someone to do something...
"I'm not forbidding you from going to that party, but you have an exam on Monday".

Allah only forbids you respecting those who made war upon you on account of (your) religion, and drove you forth from your homes and backed up (others) in your expulsion, that you make friends with them, and whoever makes friends with them, these are the unjust.

So you admit that Allah does forbid you behaving justly and kindly to some people.

And this was supposed to show that passage about hatred and enmity in a good light?
All it has done is show that you (and others who use it so thoughtlessly) do not know what "context" actually means.

 

[Link]

The faults and problems are created in your head. It's not God's fault nor the Messengers that you create problems and don't interpret things properly.

 

[KWED]

I must be a poor sufi because I do not hate anything or anyone.

I don't hate anyone either. There are plenty of people who find hate unnecessary and unhelpful. The Quran would beg to differ though.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

I don't hate anyone either. There are plenty of people who find hate unnecessary and unhelpful. The Quran would beg to differ though.

He is more on your side than against you if you pay attention.

 

[KWED]

I don't believe that, unless it's a veiled threat for something horrible in the here and now of course?

She threatened me a while back as well. Such a glowing example of peace and tolerance.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

She threatened me a while back as well. Such a glowing example of peace and tolerance.

Well, Link was honest with me.

 

[ppp]

That hardly deserves a reply

eternal: lasting or existing forever; without end.

Oh? So your god is within time?

 

[KWED]

If that's what you think..

Love how I presented a detailed response to your points, but you only respond to one small element, and that response is utterly meaningless.