Ask About Islam

[KWED]

..but you don't believe in any gods .. so what do you know?

*sigh*
One can assume an interlocutor's position for the purpose of debate.

This whole concept of "debate" is entirely lost on you, isn't it?

 

[KWED]

Yes, it is.
The reason for that is due to the nature of our souls.

You said it wasn't a punishment. Now you agree it is (given that Allah repeatedly calls it a punishment, it did seem odd that you challenged it).

I have explained once, so..

Your explanation made no sense.

 

[KWED]

No it doesn't.

Abraham and those with him are the best examples for you to follow. They told the people, "We have nothing to do with you and with those whom you worship besides God. We have rejected you. Enmity and hatred will separate us forever unless you believe in One God." (60:4)

You are right that we are not to turn our backs on those that wish evil upon us.
We are to defend ourselves and show fierceness.

Defend yourselves against what? That passage is simply referring to the pagans who refused to worship Allah - and Allah said hating them was not only acceptable, but it was a good example for all Muslims to follow!

Like so many other instances, I understand that this passage makes you feel uncomfortable. I mean, why would you hate people simply because they have a different belief?
However, "Allah Knows Best", eh?

 

[Link]

@KWED you are going to lose credibility when people see you twisting verses out of their place even if after it's been clarified to you.

 

[KWED]

Jeepers, you think we evolved from apes? I know my creator made me with brains lol ...if we evolved from apes how come there are apes still not like humans and since mankind has been around, not one ape has evolved into a human lol come on seriously you believe in that?

**** me, this is priceless! Do you have any idea how this makes you look to rational, educated people?
The perfect example of the dangers of blind dogmatic zealotry.

 

[KWED]

Ok Ok, so you are backlashing when confronted.

 

[KWED]

Yes, it is unknown.
However, we do know what the path to hell looks like.
eg. it is based on bad intention and rebellion

If a person dies in this state, it is very likely that they will taste hell, even if it is only for a little while.

Define "bad intention and rebellion".

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Love how I presented a detailed response to your points, but you only respond to one small element, and that response is utterly meaningless.

My experience with this poster is the exact same.

 

[KWED]

It's quite simple, you are sincere to God and strive for him, you will be guided and go to heaven.

This is circular logic.
How can you be sincere to god if you think he doesn't exist? If you already believe he exists, you do not need guiding.

So many platitudes, so little sense!

 

[KWED]

The people of Abraham prosecuted believers and were destroyed by God (like Lot's people).

The Quran doesn't mention any "prosecution" [sic], just "We have nothing to do with you and with those whom you worship besides God." It only mentions idolatry.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Jeepers, you think we evolved from apes?

Yes, that's a fact.
And not just from apes. Also from mammals, tetrapods, vertebrates, eukaryotes,...
All of which we still are off course. Humans are apes, mammals, vertebrates,...

if we evolved from apes how come there are apes still not like humans and since mankind has been around, not one ape has evolved into a human lol

//facepalm

What a surprise..........
Another creationist who hasn't gotten a clue concerning basic evolutionary biology.

1. humans are apes (just like humans are mammals)
2. the other great apes (chimps, gorilla's,...) are NOT our ancestors. We share ancestors.

come on seriously you believe in that?

In the same way I "believe" in germ theory, atomic theory, plate tectonics,.. and other well established scientific theories.

you cannot "silence" intelligence lol nice try though

But you can certainly shut it off, as willfully ignorant creationists demonstrate all the time.

 

[KWED]

He is more on your side than against you if you pay attention.

Do you have any objective way of proving that?

 

[KWED]

@KWED you are going to lose credibility when people see you twisting verses out of their place even if after it's been clarified to you.

Your "clarification" merely supported my argument.
Obviously, cognitive dissonance prevents you from realising it.

 

[MyM]

Why was Muhammad allowed more wives than other Muslims?.

Why was Muhammad allowed more wives than other Muslims?.

Actually yes, he did have more. He was married to Khadija his first wife and the mother of his children. He was age 25 and she was 40. A very rich women in her time and had her business. He never married anyone else while she was alive. It was a very sad time when she passed away. His wives were blessings and they were also necessary and helped the outcome of situations.

He was a prophet of Allah. He was entitled and given that privilege by Allah. Some were married for necessities and some helped the political arena etc. But the wisdom, Allah knows.

And Allah knows best

 

[MyM]

We didn't come from apes. Did you not read that. We evolved, as did all other life, and we happen to share a branch of evolution with other primates. Do you seriously think that with all the evidence that scientists of various persuasion have managed to amass that they are just joking as to such? You really are making yourself to be less intelligent if you just stick to what is written in religious texts, particularly when they seem to go against modern science. Many with religious beliefs manage to incorporate science into their worlds with no trouble, so what is it about your belief that makes this impossible? Because you stick to literal interpretations? Bad move.

Nope I don't feel less intelligent for not believing mankind evolved from apes, just the contrary, those who believe such things haven't read the Quran with open mind. They haven't checked out the beauty of the sciences in the Quran. I can give you a list if you want to start literal interpretations ...if proven correct as my Creator said so, of course literal...but Quran doesn't just come with words from Allah, we have the ahadiths that tell us and explain to us the Quran-no other religious book has that claim that can be proven back to the prophet pbuh himself. That way it isn't just for men to opinionize their own interpretations. In Islam, you are not allowed to do that.

So, apes, come on...apes! Quit monkeying around

 

[MyM]

My irony meter just exploded.




There aren't "billions" of muslims in the world.

There are cl

My irony meter just exploded.




There aren't "billions" of muslims in the world.

There are close to 2 billion actually.

 

[MyM]

Yes, that's a fact.
And not just from apes. Also from mammals, tetrapods, vertebrates, eukaryotes,...
All of which we still are off course. Humans are apes, mammals, vertebrates,...




//facepalm

What a surprise..........
Another creationist who hasn't gotten a clue concerning basic evolutionary biology.

1. humans are apes (just like humans are mammals)
2. the other great apes (chimps, gorilla's,...) are NOT our ancestors. We share ancestors.



In the same way I "believe" in germ theory, atomic theory, plate tectonics,.. and other well established scientific theories.



But you can certainly shut it off, as willfully ignorant creationists demonstrate all the time.

lol You cannot prove to me that I came from an ape. The THEORY of evolution is just that...a theory.

I do not share ancestors with an ape ....you can very well believe things you can prove, but theory is just that, theory.

I have enough proof in my religion that tells me where I came from. Doctors will tell you to same lol

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

There are close to 2 billion actually.

Which doesn't qualify as "billions".
Also, it's kind of dishonest to put them all in the same group, while several factions disagree so much they are even killing each other over it.

 

[MyM]

Which doesn't qualify as "billions".
Also, it's kind of dishonest to put them all in the same group, while several factions disagree so much they are even killing each other over it.

Which doesn't qualify as "billions".
Also, it's kind of dishonest to put them all in the same group, while several factions disagree so much they are even killing each other over it.

If they say la illaha illaalla mohammad rasullah..and believe in it...they are muslims.

Imagine if you said that about Christians lol

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

lol You cannot prove to me that I came from an ape.

1. you, and all other humans, ARE an ape. Just like humans are mammals.
2. phylogenetics (DNA allows us to determine [shared] ancestry. it's how we can tell your brother from your cousin from another random person based only on anonymous DNA samples)

The THEORY of evolution is just that...a theory.

So you really are going to go through every PRATT known to man kind concerning this subject?

There's even a webpage dedicated to this specific PRATT:

Evolution is Not Just a Theory: home

I do not share ancestors with an ape

You do, since you are a human. Your ancestors were apes and mammals. Just like you.

....you can very well believe things you can prove, but theory is just that, theory.

Plate tectonics, heliocentrism, germs, atoms, relativity... all "just" theories.

learn2science

Please.

You are making yourself look very uneducated here.

I have enough proof in my religion that tells me where I came from.

Beliefs aren't proofs.