Atheist Desire to Disprove God

[Willamena]

I'll need you to define "trolling". My understanding is that a post cannot be considered "trolling" if it's intent and purpose is to distinguish an actual troll.

And if I punch you in the face because you punched me in the face, my action doesn't really count as a punch.

Oh, goody.

 

[Eliot Wild]

And if I punch you in the face because you punched me in the face, my action doesn't really count as a punch.

Oh, goody.

No, that would be a lover's spat. I get crazy when you flirt with me like that!! Yeaaaaaah, baaaaabeee!!

 

[PolyHedral]

I mean what about a lack of belief stemming from total and complete ignorance? For example, I hold absolutely no belief whatsoever about what the lunch special is today at the most expensive restaurant in Tripoli, Libya. That's because I don't even have any idea which is the most expensive restaurant in Tripoli, what their cuisine might be and what options there are to choose from. Does that mean I really hold a belief on the matter?

Obviously, you believe there are no restaurants in Tripoli.

 

[Willamena]

What about a lack of belief that stems from lack of knowledge or understanding? Is that too still a belief?

I mean what about a lack of belief stemming from total and complete ignorance? For example, I hold absolutely no belief whatsoever about what the lunch special is today at the most expensive restaurant in Tripoli, Libya. That's because I don't even have any idea which is the most expensive restaurant in Tripoli, what their cuisine might be and what options there are to choose from. Does that mean I really hold a belief on the matter?

If immediately after my birth I was placed in a controlled environment in which all my knowledge were regulated and filtered, thereby insuring that I were never educated on any God models or religious concepts, would I still hold a belief on the matter?

Ignosticism is not atheism. "An ignostic maintains that they cannot even say whether he/she is a theist or an atheist until a sufficient definition of theism is put forth."

 

[Alceste]

Ignosticism is not atheism. "An ignostic maintains that they cannot even say whether he/she is a theist or an atheist until a sufficient definition of theism is put forth."

Enough with this incessant trolling!

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Ignosticism is not atheism. "An ignostic maintains that they cannot even say whether he/she is a theist or an atheist until a sufficient definition of theism is put forth."

Ignosticism is a subset of atheism.

How many things that you can't define do you believe in?

 

[Dirty Penguin]

I thought we were discussing this misconception that Atheist "desire to disprove God"....

Are we still doing definitions?

 

[Willamena]

Enough with this incessant trolling!

I'm sorry.

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<-- cute!! )

 

[Willamena]

Ignosticism is a subset of atheism.

How many things that you can't define do you believe in?

That some atheists would abscond with it is obvious. Nevertheless, to the ignostic they are different things.

 

[Willamena]

I thought we were discussing this misconception that Atheist "desire to disprove God"....

Are we still doing definitions?

The OP asks us to speculate on the motivation of "some atheists".

I can't even begin...

 

[Kilgore Trout]

That some atheists would abscond with it is obvious. Nevertheless, to the ignostic they are different things.

It's simply a matter of what you are, by defintion, or what you decide to label yourself. Some people are more concerned with definitions, and others are more concerned with labels.

 

[Eliot Wild]

Well, I've come to a decision ... I'm going to start referring to myself as a "misanthropic humanist" because I think it fits my---

Ah man, dang it!! That label's already taken.

 

[Willamena]

It's simply a matter of what you are, by defintion, or what you decide to label yourself. Some people are more concerned with definitions, and others are more concerned with labels.

That's one way of looking at it.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

That's one way of looking at it.

That's useful feedback.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Well, I've come to a decision ... I'm going to start referring to myself as a "misanthropic humanist" because I think it fits my---

Ah man, dang it!! That label's already taken.

Don't sweat it, I don't own it. In fact, I think it actually applies to most thinking people whether they realize it or not.

 

[Willamena]

That's useful feedback.

Did you ...want ...feedback?

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Did you ...want ...feedback?

Does what I want have any influence on your responses?

 

[Willamena]

Does what I want have any influence on your responses?

Not really, but it could.

 

[wincando]

why cant u all get on with leading life rather than looking for something? dont regress into that bland world of its nothingto do with me, its about a higher being. great escape but you might aswell do jack ****. do you really need some one to lead your life for you? we did that at nursery school. do you need a religion to make your life have a meaning, why not lead just a good life without anybody giving u guidance, treat everyone with same values u have yourself. give it a go i think u will end up in paradise.

 

[outhouse]

why cant u all get on with leading life rather than looking for something? dont regress into that bland world of its nothingto do with me, its about a higher being. great escape but you might aswell do jack ****. do you really need some one to lead your life for you? we did that at nursery school. do you need a religion to make your life have a meaning, why not lead just a good life without anybody giving u guidance, treat everyone with same values u have yourself. give it a go i think u will end up in paradise.

well thats a fine how do you do LOL

welcome to the forum

NOW who do you think your talking to and do you derail threads in other forums you visit????