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Avi's Spiritual and Religious Journey - Part 2

Akivah

Akivah

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paarsurrey said:
I mention it again:

The prime teaching of Moses.

4. Hear, O Israel: The Lord is our God; the Lord is one.
5. And you shall love the Lord, your God, with all your heart and with all your soul, and with all your means.
6. And these words, which I command you this day, shall be upon your heart.
7. And you shall teach them to your sons and speak of them when you sit in your house, and when you walk on the way, and when you lie down and when you rise up.
8. And you shall bind them for a sign upon your hand, and they shall be for ornaments between your eyes.
9. And you shall inscribe them upon the doorposts of your house and upon your gates.


This is the essence of all commandments and the Law of Moses.


Jesus mentions his core teachings:

36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

Matthew 22:36-40

Regards
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I don't understand your logic. You said that both the Hebrew bible and the Christian bible are full of errors and changes from scribes. To me that means that both books are totally unreliable. Yet, you are using two sentences from one to assign importance to a group of sentences in the other, and saying that these are the truth. Walk me through it.

1) How do you know that those two particular sentences in the Christian bible are the only correct sentences in the book?
2) How do you know that that group of sentences in the Hebrew bible are the only correct sentences in the book?
3) How do you know that these sentences from both books remain untouched from the scribes?
 
Avi1001

Avi1001

reform Jew humanist liberal feminist entrepreneur
What has the world come to....a Conservative Jew and a fundy Muslim, debating on my liberal religious and spiritual journey, oy vey :help:
 
Brickjectivity

Brickjectivity

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Its not a very heated debate. Perhaps if you were a little more on the wealthy side you would draw more attention.
 
dantech

dantech

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paarsurrey said:
I mention it again:

The prime teaching of Moses.

4. Hear, O Israel: The Lord is our God; the Lord is one.
5. And you shall love the Lord, your God, with all your heart and with all your soul, and with all your means.
6. And these words, which I command you this day, shall be upon your heart.
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How can words be upon our hearts? Surely it's very similar to "walking" in the Garden, isn't it?

7. And you shall teach them to your sons and speak of them when you sit in your house, and when you walk on the way, and when you lie down and when you rise up.
8. And you shall bind them for a sign upon your hand,
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Bind the words upon my hand? How?

and they shall be for ornaments between your eyes.
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How do words become "ornaments between your eyes"? Should they be tattooed?
9. And you shall inscribe them upon the doorposts of your house and upon your gates.
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Since you're quoting this to us, I assume you believe this part of the Torah is legit? It hasn't been corrupted?
So you have these words inscribed on the doorpost of your house, right?


This is the essence of all commandments and the Law of Moses.
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I repeat. There is no essence of commandments. Unless you could prove that somehow inscribing these words on my heart, hands and between my eyes is what God considers the "essence" of commandments? I suspect you will ignore this post though, like my previous ones.

Jesus mentions his core teachings:
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Jesus is of absolutely no significance to Jews. Quoting him in attempt to prove something is like quoting a character from a cartoon in attempt to prove something.
 
paarsurrey

paarsurrey

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The prime teaching of Moses.

4. Hear, O Israel: The Lord is our God; the Lord is one.
5. And you shall love the Lord, your God, with all your heart and with all your soul, and with all your means.
6. And these words, which I command you this day, shall be upon your heart.

dantech said:
How can words be upon our hearts? Surely it's very similar to "walking" in the Garden, isn't it?

Bind the words upon my hand? How?

How do words become "ornaments between your eyes"? Should they be tattooed?

Since you're quoting this to us, I assume you believe this part of the Torah is legit? It hasn't been corrupted?

So you have these words inscribed on the doorpost of your house, right?

I repeat. There is no essence of commandments. Unless you could prove that somehow inscribing these words on my heart, hands and between my eyes is what God considers the "essence" of commandments? I suspect you will ignore this post though, like my previous ones.

Jesus is of absolutely no significance to Jews. Quoting him in attempt to prove something is like quoting a character from a cartoon in attempt to prove something.
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I have highlighted the verses in magenta above and the same below that constitute the basic teachings of Moses.

4. Hear, O Israel: The Lord is our God; the Lord is one.
5. And you shall love the Lord, your God, with all your heart and with all your soul, and with all your means.

The rest of your questions should be either addressed to Torah or to Moses; they should explain them.

Regards
 
Avi1001

Avi1001

reform Jew humanist liberal feminist entrepreneur
Paar, please use your own words to describe your ideas. Enough of the scriptural quotes....you are putting us to sleep...ok, dude! :sleep:

Be there....or be square. :D
 
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Brickjectivity

Brickjectivity

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Avi1001 said:
Brickj, start participating in our "Entreprenuership" thread and you will learn how to reach the land of financial "critical mass". ;)
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There are a lot of good web sites out there about it -- about not wasting money on things people often waste money on, how to get funding for business startups. There's Fast Company magazine for inspirational stories etc. There are opportunities yes, but isn't it easier and better when people just give me money? Where is the harm in that?
 
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