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Avi's Spiritual and Religious Journey - Part 2
- Thread starter Avi1001
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Personally the rest of you can and will do whatever you like. I'm not in a good position to answer his question since I'm on a small computer far from home where I could look it up, but I would answer if I were able to easily look it up. Because someone is a member of one religion, that does not mean that he or she can't be curious about another one. And snarky dismissive non-answers don't help the dialog.
Levite
Higher and Higher
I think you'll find that when non-Jews ask genuine and respectful questions, most of us answer, and do so respectfully.
This individual has repeatedly shown that he is not respectful of Judaism, and that ultimately all his "respectful questions" are designed to demonstrate that we and our tradition are wrong and corrupted, and only his tradition is correct and unsullied.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
I get following information about Jonah.
He was Assyrian, he was Hebrew, he was Jew, and he was Jewish.
How to distinctly distinguish between the above?
How to reconcile them in one person?
Please
regards
Levite
Higher and Higher
He was not Assyrian. He was a Jew, a Hebrew-- which are two ways of saying he was Jewish.
Simple. Reconciled.
Flankerl
Well-Known Member
So you are saying he was Assyrian.
Regards
Well been there done that.
In the end its always the same. One could of course hope that he changed and now it wont turn out like it always has. But iam not that stupid.
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
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Desert Snake
Veteran Member
Speaking of that, how did someone reach that conclusion..
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
Paar
Assyrian looks to be way off, I'd forget that if I were you.
Assyrian looks to be way off, I'd forget that if I were you.
Avi1001
reform Jew humanist liberal feminist entrepreneur
I think that from a fish's perspective Jonah is a tragic story about things that happen upon land that result in tragedy for fish, and it symbolizes humankind polluting the worlds oceans. Bible stories are rarely kind to fish. Even cows get more consideration.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Nah, I think it's more like "man eats fish, but then fish eats man, thus divine retribution".
Thanks for humoring me, but you are under the false assumption that you understand what retribution means to a fish. I have a little better idea. Lets consider another possibility: Jonah is at one point in the story himself transformed into a fish and this is described as "Swallowed by a fish." How else could he survive three days in the belly of a fish? How else could he pray beneath the waves? He is made into a fish for three days. Now that is a fish's idea of retribution. :goldfish:Nah, I think it's more like "man eats fish, but then fish eats man, thus divine retribution".
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Desert Snake
Veteran Member
Don't be naughty, disciple...remember, you are still on Avi's thread !
Lol I meant that seriously, wasn't aware of that belief. Also considering Jonah is obviously not Assyrian in the narrative, just wondering if there were other texts, evidence of such.
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
An Assyrian Jonah is an interesting concept btw. He does seem reluctant to follow G-ds commands, which is where perhaps this idea originates, in that Jonah didn't adhere to Judaic belief totally or at all when in Nineveh.
People just like to get romantic about things and dream up possibilities. Like, why specifically was Jonah sent to Ninevah? What specifically qualified him for the job? Why did he have such a low opinion of Assyrians? There are many answers.
Avi1001
reform Jew humanist liberal feminist entrepreneur
Right. Btw,the long trip I am going on, is by ship....and I am going to a place in the Middle East, where people are sinning against our one G-d. I am on a mission to convince them to follow our G-d when I get there. I will be on a ship with heathens.
Also, we are expecting some rough weather and we will be travelling through whale infested waters. Maybe I can have a cup of coffee with Paar, when I get there.
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metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Avi1001
reform Jew humanist liberal feminist entrepreneur
I learned from on of the "big fish" tonight...that my trip to Ninevah might be coming to an ending soon...we need confirmation from the "Big Kahuna"....but when this happens..."Avi's Thread" will be back in business.....get ready to...PARTY...