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Believers and Disbelievers

Do you believe that God does exist

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ArtieE

Well-Known Member
FearGod said:
Not to fight at all, aggression is forbidden regardless of ones religion.
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OK. So what do you call Muslims who are aggressive? I mean, do you still regard them as believing in the Qu'ran and Muslims, or not Muslims any more because they don't follow the Qu'ran?
 
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ArtieE

Well-Known Member
FearGod said:
I don't know, it isn't a part of the religion to believe in the reincarnation, so it remains as opinions.
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Oh. So there isn't anything in the Qu'ran or the other scriptures that require you to believe in reincarnation or specifically denies reincarnation so it's a possibility? Interesting. I would have thought the Qu'ran would make it perfectly clear whether we reincarnate or not and not leave the people guessing.
 
FearGod

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
ArtieE said:
OK. So what do you call Muslims who are aggressive? I mean, do you still regard them as believing in the Qu'ran and Muslims, or not Muslims any more because they don't follow the Qu'ran?
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I can't judge who's muslim and who isn't, Takfiri is forbidden even in my homeland and which i agree with,IOW
we aren't allowed to accuse someone as being not a muslim or to call him Kafir.
 
FearGod

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
ArtieE said:
Oh. So there isn't anything in the Qu'ran or the other scriptures that require you to believe in reincarnation or specifically denies reincarnation so it's a possibility? Interesting. I would have thought the Qu'ran would make it perfectly clear whether we reincarnate or not and not leave the people guessing.
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What benefit us if we know?
 
FearGod

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
ArtieE said:
Wouldn't it be important to know if we had several lives to learn and grow and mature and evolve instead of just one?
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What we know that the previous creation "jinn" are still on earth, in some few cases they share the
body of one person, i don't have much idea about it, but they can come as a cat, a snake...etc
 
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ArtieE

Well-Known Member
FearGod said:
What we know that the previous creation "jinn" are still on earth, in some few cases they share the
body of one person, i don't have much idea about it, but they can come as a cat, a snake...etc
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Oh drats I'll never look at our two cats the same way again. How do I know if they are "jinns" and what do I do with them if they are?
 
firedragon

firedragon

Veteran Member
ArtieE said:
I don't want to derail the thread but I just happened to come across a short article on reincarnation in Islam and since there are several Muslims here could you read the article and say if you believe in reincarnation? I'm just curious whether you all believe reincarnation is true or not. http://adishakti.org/_/reincarnation_in_islam.htm
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I read this article, and its a load of horse ****.

This is written by someone who has read another book, not by someone who has done any kind of research. He doesn't know even a letter of Arabic. He defines Kafir as one who does not believe in reincarnation. That's a simple lie. I say lie because there is no linguistic justification.

The verse he quotes about being dead, given life and death again is wrong. It does not mean dead in the beginning, it means lifeless. Or you didn't have life. Wakunthum Amwathan, or knowing or seeing that you were lifeless.
 
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ArtieE

Well-Known Member
firedragon said:
I read this article, and its a load of horse ****.

This is written by someone who has read another book, not by someone who has done any kind of research. He doesn't know even a letter of Arabic. He defines Kafir as one who does not believe in reincarnation. That's a simple lie. I say lie because there is no linguistic justification.

The verse he quotes about being dead, given life and death again is wrong. It does not mean dead in the beginning, it means lifeless. Or you didn't have life. Wakunthum Amwathan, or knowing or seeing that you were lifeless.
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But do we reincarnate or not according to you?
 
Jumi

Jumi

Well-Known Member
FearGod said:
We disagree on many things within the same Muslims themselves,
so no, it isn't copy and paste things.
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My ancestors used to believe in the local gods before the Northern Crusades. After that they were at least nominally Catholic and later part of Swedish kingdom protestant became enforced state religion. Religion has changed with every generation and I never converted to any religion although I was born into a sort of Christianity.
 
firedragon

firedragon

Veteran Member
ArtieE said:
But do we reincarnate or not according to you?
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I don't know your beliefs. And I certainly don't aim at downgrading any belief brother.

But since its a forum, nope I don't believe in reincarnation. Scientifically, theologically and logically, there is no way (My view). But I humbly request any analysis from your side for my knowledge.

Best to you.
 
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ArtieE

Well-Known Member
firedragon said:
But since its a forum, nope I don't believe in reincarnation. Scientifically, theologically and logically, there is no way (My view). But I humbly request any analysis from your side for my knowledge.

Best to you.
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I don't have any beliefs regarding reincarnation since I don't think I have enough evidence to believe either way. But I think it's interesting.
 
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