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Ben Carson lies about his past

LittlePinky82

Well-Known Member
Carson's "scholarship" is much like Obama's "professorship".
These resume enhancements aren't all that disturbing.
(Easy for me to say though....not the kind of folk I'd ever vote for anyway.)

What are you talking about? Obama was a professor of Constitutional law at Harvard and it was backed up by facts of record from the school. Carson lied about getting a "scholarship" from West Point and it was backed up by records and facts from West Point.

They are NOT "much alike." Carson is a complete fraud.

To demonstrate that now he has given himself fully to god he has turned into a caring, nice guy who wants to be President

It's playing into the stereotype of the violent black man that these people have (meaning his base). "OH look we were right about "them!" He proved it!" Even though there's no evidence of him stabbing anyone or any sort of violent past.
 

Adramelek

Setian
Premium Member
Gawd damn it folks, Dr. Ben Carson did not lie. He said he was offered an opportunity to attend West Point, which those who attend West Point do not pay for it, it is the same thing as a scholarship. Ben Carson turned it down because he wanted to attend medical school. Politico lied by stretching semantics because they hate Carson, Politico is the deceiver here not Carson.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
What are you talking about? Obama was a professor of Constitutional law at Harvard and it was backed up by facts of record from the school.
He never taught at Harvard.
His actual title at the University Of Chicago was "Senior Lecturer".
While less than fully accurate, it's as minor as Carson's faux pas.
 

LittlePinky82

Well-Known Member
He never taught at Harvard.
His actual title at the University Of Chicago was "Senior Lecturer".
While less than fully accurate, it's as minor as Carson's faux pas.

Uh isn't lecturing teaching? o_O

Majority of my classes were lectures too. We even had exams! And they were by professors. Even my psychology classes were by professors who had the proper phd's and **** and all they did was lecture about the subject and we had exams.

And no it's not. Carson flat out lied. West Point doesn't even have scholarships.

Oh sorry I said Harvard. I confused him with going there with Chicago.

But here you go-

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/03/obama-a-constitutional-law-professor/

Q: Was Barack Obama really a constitutional law professor?

A:His formal title was "senior lecturer," but the University of Chicago Law School says he "served as a professor" and was "regarded as" a professor.

FULL QUESTION

< When I was in law school, I addressed all of my course instructors as "professors," regardless of their rank or formal position in the school academic hierarchy (tenured professor, assistant professor, adjunct professor, lecturer, etc.). Was Obama exaggerating or factually wrong in referring to himself as a "constitutional law professor" at the University of Chicago Law School even though his official title was lecturer? >

< Furthermore, Obama was not merely an "instructor" as Phil Singer stated. As a "senior lecturer," Obama was in good company: The six other faculty members with the title include the associate dean of the law school and Judge Richard Posner, who is widely considered to be one of the nation’s top legal theorists.

-Joe Miller >
 
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Adramelek

Setian
Premium Member
Carson flat out lied. West Point doesn't even have scholarships.

Again I say, Gawd damn it folks, Dr. Ben Carson did not lie. He said he was offered an opportunity to attend West Point, which those who attend West Point do not pay for it, it is the same thing as a scholarship. Ben Carson turned it down because he wanted to attend medical school. Politico lied by stretching semantics because they hate Carson, Politico is the deceiver here not Carson.
 

LittlePinky82

Well-Known Member
Again I say, Gawd damn it folks, Dr. Ben Carson did not lie. He said he was offered an opportunity to attend West Point, which those who attend West Point do not pay for it, it is the same thing as a scholarship. Ben Carson turned it down because he wanted to attend medical school. Politico lied by stretching semantics because they hate Carson, Politico is the deceiver here not Carson.

Yeah, he did.


Go around 8:00. It's him talking about it himself.

And he also never met that General he said he did. The day Carson claims to have met him the General was no where near him.

There's no scholarships at West Point. If you get accepted it's free. That's across the board to anyone who gets accepted. That's not a scholarship.
 

LittlePinky82

Well-Known Member
Which means absolutely nothing, I have met many college graduates that don't seem to much of anything in reality ( I'm one myself mind you).

Sorry I corrected myself and said University of Chicago. I confused him going to Harvard with teaching there but it was Chicago. The point isn't about knowing. It's the point comparing the two "lies." Obama didn't lie. Carson did. I'm a college graduate too imagine that. You're one out of many in the US alone. So? This isn't about going to college. This is about supposedly lying or not. Obama didn't lie. Carson did.
 

Adramelek

Setian
Premium Member
Yeah, he did.


Go around 8:00. It's him talking about it himself.

And he also never met that General he said he did. The day Carson claims to have met him the General was no where near him.

LittlePinky, say it isn't so; your getting your information from a biased, liberal, lying media outlet like The Young Turks? :facepalm: No way, no thank you. :confused: I still love you though. :smilecat:
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Uh isn't lecturing teaching? o_O
Majority of my classes were lectures too. We even had exams! And they were by professors. Even my psychology classes were by professors who had the proper phd's and **** and all they did was lecture about the subject and we had exams.
And no it's not. Carson flat out lied. West Point doesn't even have scholarships.
Are all teachers & lecturers entitled "professor"?
Politicians are prone to exaggerating their positives.
I just don't see that Carson or Obama are behaving outside the norm.
Even Hiillary's claim about being "under sniper fire" just doesn't rise to the level of real fraud.

See how fair I am?
I hold both Dems & Pubs to the same low standard.
And if we Libertarians ever win office, the same shall apply.
 

LittlePinky82

Well-Known Member
LittlePinky, say it isn't so; your getting your information from a biased, liberal, lying media outlet like The Young Turks? :facepalm: No way, no thank you. :confused: I still love you though. :smilecat:

If you go to 8:00 you can see him talking about it himself. Him saying it. So you don't want a video clip of him saying it? I'm not telling you to watch the TYT clip. The clip of Carson talking about it himself. He lied. He said he got a scholarship and West Point doesn't do that. ANYONE who gets into West Point gets in free. I'm a left winger hun. Figure it out. What do you listen to? Rush Limbaugh? Sean Hannity? Get over the holier than thou crap.

So what about Carson lying about West Point and scholarships? They don't do them. He's a liar.

(It's nice to still be loved <3 )


Are all teachers & lecturers entitled "professor"?
Politicians are prone to exaggerating their positives.
I just don't see that Carson or Obama are behaving outside the norm.
Even Hiillary's claim about being "under sniper fire" just doesn't rise to the level of real fraud.

See how fair I am?
I hold both Dems & Pubs to the same low standard.
And if we Libertarians ever win office, the same shall apply.


But here you go-

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/03/obama-a-constitutional-law-professor/

Q: Was Barack Obama really a constitutional law professor?

A:His formal title was "senior lecturer," but the University of Chicago Law School says he "served as a professor" and was "regarded as" a professor.

FULL QUESTION

< When I was in law school, I addressed all of my course instructors as "professors," regardless of their rank or formal position in the school academic hierarchy (tenured professor, assistant professor, adjunct professor, lecturer, etc.). Was Obama exaggerating or factually wrong in referring to himself as a "constitutional law professor" at the University of Chicago Law School even though his official title was lecturer? >

< Furthermore, Obama was not merely an "instructor" as Phil Singer stated. As a "senior lecturer," Obama was in good company: The six other faculty members with the title include the associate dean of the law school and Judge Richard Posner, who is widely considered to be one of the nation’s top legal theorists.

-Joe Miller >
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Carson's "scholarship" is much like Obama's "professorship".
These resume enhancements aren't all that disturbing.
(Easy for me to say though....not the kind of folk I'd ever vote for anyway.)
Pretty much, RevoltingOne. It would not occur to me to vote for either.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
If you go to 8:00 you can see him talking about it himself. Him saying it. So you don't want a video clip of him saying it? I'm not telling you to watch the TYT clip. The clip of Carson talking about it himself. He lied. He said he got a scholarship and West Point doesn't do that. ANYONE who gets into West Point gets in free. I'm a left winger hun. Figure it out. What do you listen to? Rush Limbaugh? Sean Hannity? Get over the holier than thou crap.

So what about Carson lying about West Point and scholarships? They don't do them. He's a liar.

When you can't argue the




But here you go-

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/03/obama-a-constitutional-law-professor/

Q: Was Barack Obama really a constitutional law professor?

A:His formal title was "senior lecturer," but the University of Chicago Law School says he "served as a professor" and was "regarded as" a professor.

FULL QUESTION

< When I was in law school, I addressed all of my course instructors as "professors," regardless of their rank or formal position in the school academic hierarchy (tenured professor, assistant professor, adjunct professor, lecturer, etc.). Was Obama exaggerating or factually wrong in referring to himself as a "constitutional law professor" at the University of Chicago Law School even though his official title was lecturer? >

< Furthermore, Obama was not merely an "instructor" as Phil Singer stated. As a "senior lecturer," Obama was in good company: The six other faculty members with the title include the associate dean of the law school and Judge Richard Posner, who is widely considered to be one of the nation’s top legal theorists.

-Joe Miller >
If your generosity towards Obama were in Carson's direction, I'm sure he too would come off smelling like a rose.
The difference just isn't so big for those of us with no horse in this race.
 
Sorry I corrected myself and said University of Chicago. I confused him going to Harvard with teaching there but it was Chicago. The point isn't about knowing. It's the point comparing the two "lies." Obama didn't lie. Carson did. I'm a college graduate too imagine that. You're one out of many in the US alone. So? This isn't about going to college. This is about supposedly lying or not. Obama didn't lie. Carson did.

Who cares about Obama? he's out no matter what, all we need to worry about is the roads ahead.
 

LittlePinky82

Well-Known Member
If your generosity towards Obama were in Carson's direction, I'm sure he too would come off smelling like a rose.
The difference just isn't so big for those of us with no horse in this race.

Lmao no. One lied one didn't. That's just reality. I'm a Communist hun. You're not unique here.

Who cares about Obama? he's out no matter what, all we need to worry about is the roads ahead.

So why right wingers bring him up anyways? Oh wah Ben Carson is getting **** from the media. Not fair! Wah Obama! :rolleyes:
 

LittlePinky82

Well-Known Member
I suspect that Obama will be a major player in the future.
How could he resist the lure of power?

Yes, what's more powerful than being president of the United States? Going back to being a lecturer or doing like Bill Clinton and making money off speeches? You can't get any higher than president. Unless you're one of these NWO freaks and think he's going to rule the world. :rolleyes:
 
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