Black man harrassed by white neighbors for fishing in his own neighborhood.

[George-ananda]

Thoughts?

So, tell them you are a resident and supply your address with a smile.

As for the race angle, there are always some residents that would probably question any race of stranger fishing in their lake. There are always the few nosey and possessive neighbors.

People are too eager to stir up racial ill-will where it's not always necessary. Now it is possible that blacks are a very small minority in that community making him more suspicious of being an unauthorized stranger. So, just cooperate in a friendly way and don't classify it as 'harassment'.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I don't know for a fact that you don't have bodies buried in your basement, but it would also be silly for me to presume that there are.

That may be the case, but we are perfectly justified as just ordinary people to demand your address because we feel that you have bodies buried in your basement, right? It think that is in the 44th Amendment of something like that.

 

[Father Heathen]

So, tell them you are a resident and supply your address with a smile.

He did, but it didn't stop the routine harassment.

As for the race angle, there are always some residents that would probably question any race of stranger fishing in their lake. There are always the few nosey and possessive neighbors.

That's just it; people were harassing him while ignoring white people who were doing the same, some who weren't even residents.

People are too eager to stir up racial ill-will where it's not always necessary.

People also seem too eager to dismiss accusations of racism despite damning evidence. You may be right, but anyone with reading comprehension can see that it doesn't apply to this case.

 

[Father Heathen]

That may be the case, but we are perfectly justified as just ordinary people to demand your address because we feel that you have bodies buried in your basement, right? It think that is in the 44th Amendment of something like that.

That's right, @Shaul needs to prove to us that there are no bodies buried in his basement. Failure to do so would justify suspicion.

 

[Subduction Zone]

So, tell them you are a resident and supply your address with a smile.

As for the race angle, there are always some residents that would probably question any race of stranger fishing in their lake. There are always the few nosey and possessive neighbors.

People are too eager to stir up racial ill-will where it's not always necessary. Now it is possible that blacks are a very small minority in that community making him more suspicious of being an unauthorized stranger. So, just cooperate in a friendly way and don't classify it as 'harassment'.

And yet for some reason they only appear to question black people.


Are you going to give your address to someone that clearly does not like you and hostilely asks what you are doing at a place where you have a perfect right to be? If some freak demanded my address for no good reason at all I would not give it to them.

 

[George-ananda]

He did, but it didn't stop the routine harassment.

That's just it; people were harassing him while ignoring while people who were doing the same, some who weren't even residents.

People seem too eager to dismiss accusations of racism despite damning evidence. Even if you're right, anyone with reading comprehension can see that it doesn't apply to this case.

Now it is possible that blacks are a very small minority in that community making him more suspicious of being an unauthorized stranger. So, just cooperate in a friendly way and don't classify it as 'harassment'.

 

[Father Heathen]

Now it is possible that blacks are a very small minority in that community making him more suspicious of being an unauthorized stranger. So, just cooperate in a friendly way and don't classify it as 'harassment'.

But he was cooperative, yet the harassment (which is precisely what it was) continued. Nope, the neighborhood "Karens" were out of line.

 

[George-ananda]

And yet for some reason they only appear to question black people.

Wait, we don't know that. Now it is possible that blacks are a very small minority in that community making him more suspicious of being an unauthorized stranger. So, just cooperate in a friendly way and don't classify it as 'harassment'.

Are you going to give your address to someone that clearly does not like you and hostilely asks what you are doing at a place where you have a perfect right to be? If some freak demanded my address for no good reason at all I would not give it to them.

Well, it comes down to what are the community's procedures for residents questioning users of the lake? It sounds like this is a question for the Board of Directors at the next meeting to come up with race-blind rules if procedures are not in place.

And probably 99% of the residents don't question him. It's just the nosey and possessive types anyway.

 

[Rachel Rugelach]

That may be the case, but we are perfectly justified as just ordinary people to demand your address because we feel that you have bodies buried in your basement, right? It think that is in the 44th Amendment of something like that.

Quick! Somebody call the Fishing Police/Basement Search Squad!

 

[George-ananda]

But he was cooperative, yet the harassment (which is precisely what it was) continued.

If he was cooperative, then what is the problem? He's not saying it was the same resident multiple times.

Nope, the neighborhood "Karens" were out of line.

A minority of blacks and whites will get out of line sometimes. So let's not flame it, eh?

 

[YmirGF]

But he was cooperative, yet the harassment (which is precisely what it was) continued. Nope, the neighborhood "Karens" were out of line.

Even allowing for the possibility that the fellow in question might have been a bit more provocative than we are led to believe the reactions from these folks is a tad over the top.

I live in a rural area. 5 acre to 20 acre properties, most with natural lakes on the property. The lakes often cross property lines. I could not imagine caring enough to go up to someone fishing and hassle them on a beautiful day regardless what race they were. That several people did this is indictive of a group of self-appointed Ken's feeling their oats. (I'd be more inclined to wave and ask how the fishing was!) Sheesh. Other people's kids, eh?

 

[Shaul]

Evidence?

He self identified as residing in Columbus, Georgia on both his FB account and this TikTok account where he posted the videos.

 

[Shaul]

The OP article states that he moved to the Sweetwater Plantation subdivision in 2021. He even states that he moved there specifically for the fishing, since he's an avid fisherman.

Are you suggesting he drove more than an hour from Columbus GA to Newnan GA just to fish at this subdivision so he could be harassed by white people to post it on TikTok? Are you saying that he's doing this on purpose just to play the race card?

It's possible that he opened his TikTok account and FB account while he was still living in Columbus, and maybe never updated his profile, which is a pretty common occurrence, actually. Some people may not want to put their exact location on their social media public profiles anyway, and there's no law I know of requiring them to do so.

The article got that fact wrong. He is a resident of Columbus, Georgia according to his own FB and TikTok account. The same TikTok account where he posted the videos. Since the article got this basic easily verifiable fact wrong it is proper to wonder what else is wrong in the article.

 

[Shaul]

I don't know for a fact that you don't have bodies buried in your basement, but it would also be silly for me to presume that there are.

Nor do I know for a fact that you don't. You were the one who started bringing up non-provable assertions. Until you can prove that he didn't break any laws don't wonder if people question your assertions.

 

[Father Heathen]

Nor do I know for a fact that you don't. You were the one who started bringing up non-provable assertions. Until you can prove that he didn't break any laws don't wonder if people question your assertions.

Uh, nope. You're the one who brought up crime and challenged what was presented in the article. You made claims, therefore you substantiate them. Otherwise we'll simply continue to dismiss them as rubbish.

 

[Father Heathen]

If he was cooperative, then what is the problem? He's not saying it was the same resident multiple times.

Obviously, the problem is that his cooperation didn't stop the harassment.

A minority of blacks and whites will get out of line sometimes. So let's not flame it, eh?

Addressing and correcting legitimate issues isn't "flaming" anything.

 

[Stevicus]

The article got that fact wrong. He is a resident of Columbus, Georgia according to his own FB and TikTok account. The same TikTok account where he posted the videos. Since the article got this basic easily verifiable fact wrong it is proper to wonder what else is wrong in the article.

Verifying residency would take more than just looking at a social media account. He could likely produce a driver's license or some other official document to prove residency. Or, if he was a guest of his father who lived there, then that would authorize him to fish there, according to the rules of the association.

Otherwise, why go all that way to fish in an area he wasn't authorized to be? Was he there just to film TikTok videos under false pretenses?

 

[George-ananda]

Obviously, the problem is that his cooperation didn't stop the harassment.

You’re not making sense. Each resident doesn’t know what another confirmed????

Addressing and correcting legitimate issues isn't "flaming" anything.

Isn’t there a legitimate right to question residency? No harm done in the process.

The Board needs to clarify the rules if there is any controversy.

 

[Father Heathen]

You’re not making sense. Each resident doesn’t know what another confirmed????

That doesn't account for the fact that others who were also fishing didn't get routinely accosted.

Isn’t there a legitimate right to question residency? No harm done in the process.

Why weren't any of the other people fishing subjected to similiar interogation?

The Board needs to clarify the rules if there is any controversy.

What was ambiguous?

It's peculiar how you're bending over backwards to defend racist "Karens".

 

[George-ananda]

That doesn't account for the fact that others who were also fishing didn't get routinely accosted.

Why weren't any of the other people fishing subjected to similiar interogation?

What was ambiguous?

It's peculiar how you're bending over backwards to defend racist "Karens".

Now these other fishermen might be recognized regulars or who knows how often that guy monitors the use of the lake.

It’s peculiar how quickly you want to projects this ‘Karens’ image here.