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YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
You beat me to it.

I don't see why someone would complain about debating the Bible while constantly posting in a forum designated for debating the Bible.
That you got no consolation or answers in whatever version of Christendom you were affiliated with is not surprising to me. As the saying goes, different strokes for different folks anyway.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
That you got no consolation or answers in whatever version of Christendom you were affiliated with is not surprising to me. As the saying goes, different strokes for different folks anyway.
@Sgt. Pepper As an addendum, I did not pray for YEARS to know God. I would pray maybe for other things, but finally gave up. Because I finally figured it was all a bunch of hoopla like Christmas decorations. Or yoga positions...Shiva, etc., feeding rats at a temple, whatever. Finally I did pray even though I did not know if God exisited. It was actually someone who motivated me and I did not join his religious persuasion. Yet I believe God used him to get me to "see." Because God answered me...
 

walt

Jesus is King & Mighty God Isa.9:6-7; Lk.1:32-33
It's a debate forum!!!!!!!!!!!!! The point is to debate. If you don't want to debate go to a non debate sub forum. I have offered twice to show you how to join them but you didn't respond.
I wouldn't mind talking to you about a Bible subject, but aren't you an atheist anyway?

If you know a positive way that we can engage in a conversation, without picking apart each other's words, I wouldn't mind giving it a try. :)
But if it ends up with just a bunch of arguing over words, don't be surprised if I just stop talking, I don't want to keep engaging in a conversation that is going no place.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
You beat me to it.

I don't see why someone would complain about debating the Bible while continually posting in a forum designated for doing so.
Who's complaining? Either there is a reason like you had to deny Christ and God because God did not answer your prayers -- and/or the Trinity, and/or whether hell is hot, or there is not a God. I certainly had reasons to not believe in God for many years. But He allowed me to find Him. Almost like the Ann Murray song -- "In the Garden." Obviously I can't speak for everyone, but that's how it is with me.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
I wouldn't mind talking to you about a Bible subject, but aren't you an atheist anyway?

If you know a positive way that we can engage in a conversation, without picking apart each other's words, I wouldn't mind giving it a try. :)
But if it ends up with just a bunch of arguing over words, don't be surprised if I just stop talking, I don't want to keep engaging in a conversation that is going no place.
It's kinda hard to talk to someone about a subject he doesn't care about. It's like a debate where someone says about the other, I don't care what you think...as if that's the end of reasoning on the matter. Yikes.
 

John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
I wouldn't mind talking to you about a Bible subject, but aren't you an atheist anyway?

If you know a positive way that we can engage in a conversation, without picking apart each other's words, I wouldn't mind giving it a try. :)
But if it ends up with just a bunch of arguing over words, don't be surprised if I just stop talking, I don't want to keep engaging in a conversation that is going no place.

All I can say Walt is go to a non debate sub-forum if you don't want to debate. Complaining about debate in a debate sub-forum is like complaining that ice cream is cold.

I really have no idea what word I've argued about or when I've argued about it. If you can point out an example of me doing this then hopefully I can learn and avoid doing it in the future.
 

walt

Jesus is King & Mighty God Isa.9:6-7; Lk.1:32-33
All I can say Walt is go to a non debate sub-forum if you don't want to debate. Complaining about debate in a debate sub-forum is like complaining that ice cream is cold.

I really have no idea what word I've argued about or when I've argued about it. If you can point out an example of me doing this then hopefully I can learn and avoid doing it in the future.
I just want to have friendly debates with a goal in mind......... Gaining a little more information about a subject. :)
 

John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
I just want to have friendly debates with a goal in mind......... Gaining a little more information about a subject. :)

That's fine but if you're going to accuse people of something you could at least provide an example so we know what we're doing wrong. I still have no idea what word or words I've argued about.
 

walt

Jesus is King & Mighty God Isa.9:6-7; Lk.1:32-33
That's fine but if you're going to accuse people of something you could at least provide an example so we know what we're doing wrong. I still have no idea what word or words I've argued about.
Please I am done with this conversation, could we please talk about something else?
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
What's to debate about if a person says he doesn't care what the Bible says or is an agnostic or atheist but then wants to quote from the Bible and make up scripture as well.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Is this going anywhere? Whatever you are trying to accomplish, You win I lose.
I was not trying to accomplish anything except to point out that you did not show me what I asked you to show me.
You showed me something else I had said.

You said in post # 4072: Why do you pick apart everybody's words? Especially when you don't even believe the Holy Bible is true?
I said in post # 4079: Please show me where I said that I don't believe the Holy Bible is true.

Then in post # 4086 you said that I said: I do not care what the Bible says because I am not a Christian.
So you did not show me where I said that I don't believe the Holy Bible is true.
 

walt

Jesus is King & Mighty God Isa.9:6-7; Lk.1:32-33
I was not trying to accomplish anything except to point out that you did not show me what I asked you to show me.
You showed me something else I had said.

You said in post # 4072: Why do you pick apart everybody's words? Especially when you don't even believe the Holy Bible is true?
I said in post # 4079: Please show me where I said that I don't believe the Holy Bible is true.

Then in post # 4086 you said that I said: I do not care what the Bible says because I am not a Christian.
So you did not show me where I said that I don't believe the Holy Bible is true.
ok
 
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