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Can a literal Genesis creation story really hold up?

outhouse

Atheistically
You can claim all the supernatural explanations for our origins you wish.

But without evidence, you only have faith.


I dont need faith, knowledge and education dictate a literal interpretation of genesis is an impossibility.

A literal genesis, will remain in the supernatural and theology in the context of religion.

The scientific facts in place that DO explain our origns correctly backed with factual evidence are not up for debate. Only certain theist wish to have closed minds and constantly refuse to accept the scientific truth due to nothing more then ingrained faith.
 

Triumphant_Loser

Libertarian Egalitarian
It has everything to do about when things happened.

So what?....if green life existed before the Earth?

maybe it did!

You are still not answering my question. How did plant life exist on the planet Earth on the third day, before the creation of the Sun on day four, without freezing? If there was no Sun on day three, during the time of the creation of plant life, the temperature of the Earth would be around -270 degrees Fahrenheit, the same as the rest of outer space. The moment plants would have been created, they would have frozen instantly. So yes, Genesis is scientifically inaccurate.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
You are still not answering my question. How did plant life exist on the planet Earth on the third day, before the creation of the Sun on day four, without freezing? If there was no Sun on day three, during the time of the creation of plant life, the temperature of the Earth would be around -270 degrees Fahrenheit, the same as the rest of outer space. The moment plants would have been created, they would have frozen instantly. So yes, Genesis is scientifically inaccurate.

The book doesn't actually say it that way.

And some people partial to science tend to think...life came from some other source.
(brought here from another place)
 

gnostic

The Lost One
triumphant_loser said:
You are still not answering my question. How did plant life exist on the planet Earth on the third day, before the creation of the Sun on day four, without freezing? If there was no Sun on day three, during the time of the creation of plant life, the temperature of the Earth would be around -270 degrees Fahrenheit, the same as the rest of outer space. The moment plants would have been created, they would have frozen instantly. So yes, Genesis is scientifically inaccurate.

It get worse, when you have some literal Christian creationists who used Peter's 1-day = 1000 years, and applied each creative day being 1000 years to Genesis 1.

That would mean plants were created then wait 1000 years before the sun was created.

Ridiculous creationist's rationality, is always good for laugh.
 

CG Didymus

Veteran Member
It get worse, when you have some literal Christian creationists who used Peter's 1-day = 1000 years, and applied each creative day being 1000 years to Genesis 1.

That would mean plants were created then wait 1000 years before the sun was created.

Ridiculous creationist's rationality, is always good for laugh.
It seems so dumb to think that only the Jewish version of the creation story is the only real and literal one. But then, it is mainly Christians that press the issue that the way it is written is the way it happened. I do understand their reasoning, though, because if we start making parts of the Bible not the literal truth then where do we stop. If Genesis isn't literal then what's next? Eventually we'd end up questioning all of it, including Jesus. And we can't have that because obviously every thing the Bible says he did, he did do. Like he rose from the dead, walked on water, is God in the flesh, and will one day cast Satan into hell. You know all the provable historical things in the Bible. Hey, it's good to hear from you again, take care.
 

Ouroboros

Coincidentia oppositorum
Here's another problem.

The light we see from our Sun is 10 million years old. Because of its enormous size, and that the excited photons inside the sun bounces around, it takes on average about 10 millions years for a photon to reach the surface and finally escape. Which means that the first light hitting Earth from the Sun in Genesis must've been at least 10 million years old.
 

gnostic

The Lost One
Nadia Faiazova said:
The calculation of creative days should not be taken literally, otherwise it makes the impression of fairy tale.

True.

But it is also equally a fairy tale, in taken literally Peter's verse -
2 Peter 3:8 said:
...that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like one day.

...or John's logo -
John 1:1 said:
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Mixing these 2 verses (above), with Genesis' creation, and taking them all literally, only make the creation story, more mythological (or fairy tale) than just reading Genesis by itself.

And the talking serpent in Genesis 3 only cement the creation story in the realm of fable and myth.
 

Desert Snake

Veteran Member
It get worse, when you have some literal Christian creationists who used Peter's 1-day = 1000 years, and applied each creative day being 1000 years to Genesis 1.

That would mean plants were created then wait 1000 years before the sun was created.

Ridiculous creationist's rationality, is always good for laugh.

Don't other religious people besides Christians use a literal Genesis?
Besides, the "dating" aspect is not explicitly in the Bible.
 
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