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Can a literal Genesis creation story really hold up?

greentwiga

greentwiga

Active Member
gnostic said:
True.

But it is also equally a fairy tale, in taken literally Peter's verse -


...or John's logo -


Mixing these 2 verses (above), with Genesis' creation, and taking them all literally, only make the creation story, more mythological (or fairy tale) than just reading Genesis by itself.

And the talking serpent in Genesis 3 only cement the creation story in the realm of fable and myth.
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I might note that the original quote in the OT says a thousand years is as a day or a watch in the night (about 4 hours). That makes the equivalent of one day to be 1,000 years or 6,000 years. This makes the time deliberately non-literal.
 
Thief

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Triumphant_Loser said:
So you are saying there isn't a literal serpent in your "literal" Genesis creation account? That makes no sense.:facepalm:
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Try a person.....with the character of a serpent.

What do you know about the creature?
It's stealthy, quiet and almost unseen.
Step on one and it will bite you.
Many people die every year for having been too close.
Many animals are terrified of them.

If you allow yourself to listen to someone who behaves like a serpent......what are you doing?
Are you not at risk?
 
greentwiga

greentwiga

Active Member
Triumphant_Loser said:
So you are saying there isn't a literal serpent in your "literal" Genesis creation account? That makes no sense.:facepalm:
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The Bible talks about Baal and other false gods even though they didn't literally exist. It also says there is a reality behind those false Gods; the Devil and his demons. (Deut 32:16-17) The Serpent seemed to be part of the worship of the Mother Goddess. Female priestess would talk to the serpent and at the behest of men or women and pass on the message. Since the serpent was really Satan (Rev 12:9), and he was telling them to disobey God, their sin was obeying Satan, not God. Thus the Serpent was real, but in the Spiritual world, not the physical world.
 
Muffled

Muffled

Jesus in me
Triumphant_Loser said:
Where and what is this "evidence?"
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I was told by God that they were slipping something in, relating to church service. The next morning they slipped in an ending to the confession of sin "in Jesus name." They had never done that before and the suggestion is that the name of Jesus is the one we sin by and Jesus takes exception to that.
 
Muffled

Muffled

Jesus in me
outhouse said:
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That fine.

But belief does not get to write how humans evolve or does it stop what is taught in every major university around the whole world

AS COMMON KNOWLEDGE the fcats of evolution.





None that is credible though.
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I believe anybody can write anything. There are lots of fantasy writers and scientists do their share. Its a sad commentary on education when fantasy is taught as fact.

I believe it is just common fantasy.

Somehow I believe a predisposition to discount facts is evident in your statement.
 
outhouse

outhouse

Atheistically
Muffled said:
I believe God never said that He evolved things only that He created them.
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I dont believe any god has ever written a single thing ever.


As a matter of fact, There factually is nothing anywhere that any god has ever written on, that exist.

Only people write.
 
greentwiga

greentwiga

Active Member
It is not the tree of knowledge, but the tre of knowledge of good and evil. Good is a generic statement that is similar to the English "good". Evil is a specific word having to do with covenant breaking, whether marriage, business or covenant with God. Your idea is more than what the Hebrew says. I am always careful about going beyond what the scripture says.
 
Muffled

Muffled

Jesus in me
Thief said:
Now we need a thread for defining creation!
Let me know....
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I believe one must look at the virgin birth and ask was Jesus created or evolved. Where is the male portion that one needs for evolution?

I don't believe creation ever means evolution.
 
Muffled

Muffled

Jesus in me
greentwiga said:
It is not the tree of knowledge, but the tre of knowledge of good and evil. Good is a generic statement that is similar to the English "good". Evil is a specific word having to do with covenant breaking, whether marriage, business or covenant with God. Your idea is more than what the Hebrew says. I am always careful about going beyond what the scripture says.
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I wonder whther it is the fruit or the actual act of disobedience that brings that knowledge of evil.
 
outhouse

outhouse

Atheistically
Muffled said:
I believe one must look at the virgin birth and ask was Jesus created or evolved. Where is the male portion that one needs for evolution?

I don't believe creation ever means evolution.
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Your only assuming what people call mythology, is real.
 
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