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Can Randomness and Chance cause the Evolution of life?

Audie

Veteran Member
God drowning people to get rid of sin makes no odds to those who died - their fate for eternity after life was set anyway. Before Jesus, they would all remain separated from God. Sin separates man from God.

People generally accept that it’s wrong to kill - although some believe that legal killing of a killer is okay - but that’s a contradiction.

I know the bible story. FACT is, the bible has "God" directly, or thro' his agents, killing people in the millions.

So for contradiction, its moral for him to do it but immoral for us. Unless he says to do it.

It is only a contradiction between the assertion that it is "wrong to kill" (always?) and the fact that it does not work that way.

As in that the assertion "it is wrong to kill" simple is not so.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
The Bible, because it’s true.

Ah, true. Like 100% accurate, or maybe sometimes
with a bit of error? Sometimes a close estimate or
even not so close?

And how do you know it is true? Bible says to test all things.
Did you test?
 

Libski

Member
Ah, true. Like 100% accurate, or maybe sometimes
with a bit of error? Sometimes a close estimate or
even not so close?

And how do you know it is true? Bible says to test all things.
Did you test?

It says to test all things against the Word.

Is the Bible true? My daily peace is a testament to it.

Do your views give you peace?
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Morality is absolute and it’s ake wrong to take the life of another - my belief.

You have your belief.

Of course it is wrong. That is not the point, nor a difference in belief.

You need to deal with the exceptions.

You want an example?

A serial killer is about to slice your baby's throat. A sniper can easily
stop him. Now what?
 

Libski

Member
Could you provide chapter and verse for this statement? I can't recall having seen it before.

I don’t know the chapter and verse. You could look it up? I don’t memorise them. The Bible wasn’t written in chapters but in books; chapters can offer the opportunity to distort the message.
 

Libski

Member
Of course it is wrong. That is not the point, nor a difference in belief.

You need to deal with the exceptions.

You want an example?

A serial killer is about to slice your baby's throat. A sniper can easily
stop him. Now what?

Immobilise him.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
It says to test all things against the Word.

Is the Bible true? My daily peace is a testament to it.

Do your views give you peace?

Why dont you just answer the q?

Is it 100% accurate?

It wont be true that you paid your debt in full
if you give 98 cents on the dollar.

Is the bible 100%?
 

Libski

Member
What is stopping you from praying for them?



Documentation?

Nothing stops me but sometimes they decline my offer.

Documentation? Yes, we have a Facebook page with videos but that would show my location.

Look up The Last Reformation - one of the movies. People go out into the streets in them.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Immobilise him.

You are dodging. But ok, the only possible shot is right through the brain
with a 50 calibre that will vapourize his head.

Now what?

The purpose of the hypothetical is not whether it is realistic, but
to illustrate a point. Listen to supreme court arguments, they \are always bringing up hypotheticals. There is a reason for it. Same here.

You spoke of contradictions. This is one. The baby or the maniac. One of them has to die.. You have two moral values in opposition to each other. You cannot have both.

You have to choose. Not choosing is choosing.
 

Thermos aquaticus

Well-Known Member
Nothing stops me but sometimes they decline my offer.

So you could pray for someone and cure them of cancer, but you decide not to?

Documentation? Yes, we have a Facebook page with videos but that would show my location.

Look up The Last Reformation - one of the movies. People go out into the streets in them.

Where is the documentation that your procedures cure cancer 100% of the time?
 

Libski

Member
Why dont you just answer the q?

Is it 100% accurate?

It wont be true that you paid your debt in full
if you give 98 cents on the dollar.

Is the bible 100%?

Like I said, belief and no traditions give 100% success.

I’m new to this. Sometimes, especially if I know the person, family, friends (I want so badly for them to be saved) I stop thinking about them and I start to fear that nothing will happen and I’ll lose my opportunity and then I’m in unbelief. With strangers 100%,
 

Libski

Member
So you could pray for someone and cure them of cancer, but you decide not to?



Where is the documentation that your procedures cure cancer 100% of the time?


It’s not a procedure - God heals them. We simply lay hands and command whatever they’ve got to go.

We have videos but they show where I am. Like I said to someone else, look at The Last Reformation site. In their videos, they go out into the streets.
 
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