Cardinal Pell and Evolution

[SkepticThinker]

For example, Bible tells there was one continent at the beginning. How do you think humans would have known that without God, in the ancient times?

Verse please.

 

[metis]

We have no evidence that proves it wrong. We have only disagreeing opinions that some like to see infallible.

No, that's not the point, and my point was and is what is your dismissal based on? Maybe provide a link or two?

 

[shunyadragon]

But, if the writings show knowledge, love and truth more than what humans would one their own show, then it is evidence for God.

In fact, the Bible is an ancient tribal collection of texts compiled, edited, and redated mostly without known authors later than the events it records from the perspective of ancient cultures knowledge and truth become claims from the perspective of those who believe without objective evidence.

Nowhere in the Bible does it say that at one time there was only one continent. At the most, the Bible describes an Earth and universe ~6,000 to ~10,000 years old with the Earth at the center.

 

[shunyadragon]

Why do you think I have no data? Bible is lot of data. I think Bible itself is good evidence for God, because people are too evil and stupid to make it on their own.

By definition data and evidence must be objectively determined. The Bible fails on this criterion..

 

[1213]

Nowhere in the Bible does it say that at one time there was only one continent.

Verse please.

Bible doesn't use the word continent, but it tells there was one area of dry land, which is basically the same.

And God called the dry land, Earth. And He called the collection of the waters, Seas. And God saw that it was good.
Gen. 1:10

 

[1213]

How would you know what information would not have happened without a god?

By modern knowledge there was only single continent before humans. So, if humans were not there how would they have known it, without God?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Bible doesn't use the word continent, but it tells there was one area of dry land, which is basically the same.

And God called the dry land, Earth. And He called the collection of the waters, Seas. And God saw that it was good.
Gen. 1:10

That does.not.tellus that there was only one continent. You are adding an unjustified Interpretation.

 

[Subduction Zone]

By modern knowledge there was only single continent before humans. So, if humans were not there how would they have known it, without God?

They didn't. The writers of the Bible were very ignorant.

 

[shunyadragon]

Bible doesn't use the word continent, but it tells there was one area of dry land, which is basically the same.

And God called the dry land, Earth. And He called the collection of the waters, Seas. And God saw that it was good.
Gen. 1:10

Not remotely have anything to do with the number of continents. The text just called dry Land earth

 

[shunyadragon]

By modern knowledge there was only single continent before humans. So, if humans were not there how would they have known it, without God?

The concept of billions of years of Continental Drift is based on 20th and 21st-century science and not Biblical mythology. There is no record of there being one continent in the Bible.

You obviously do not accept the billions of years of Continental drift and the evolution of life, so what's your point?

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Bible doesn't use the word continent, but it tells there was one area of dry land, which is basically the same.

And God called the dry land, Earth. And He called the collection of the waters, Seas. And God saw that it was good.
Gen. 1:10

Sorry, but you are literlally imagining things if you think anywhere in that verse that you just quoted it says that there was only one area of dry land. You are literally putting your own idea into the verse where it doesn't exist.

 

[1213]

Sorry, but you are literlally imagining things if you think anywhere in that verse that you just quoted it says that there was only one area of dry land. You are literally putting your own idea into the verse where it doesn't exist.

Ok, maybe this help to understand that there was one sea and one dry land area:

And God said, Let the waters under the heavens be collected to one place, and let the dry land appear. And it was so.
Gen. 1:9

 

[1213]

The concept of billions of years of Continental Drift is based on 20th and 21st-century science and not Biblical mythology. There is no record of there being one continent in the Bible.

You obviously do not accept the billions of years of Continental drift and the evolution of life, so what's your point?

My point was to show that Bible has an idea that people could not know without God, in the ancient times.

It doesn't make the modern idea of continental drift correct, nor the theory of evolution. Those theories are correct, if they can be proven correct.

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

if the writings show knowledge, love and truth more than what humans would one their own show, then it is evidence for God. if claim has information that humans would not have without God, then the claim is also evidence for God.

Scripture is rife with internal contradiction and errors in history and science not to mention intellectual and moral errors attributed to a deity, which is evidence that it was written by an ignorant multitude - not a god. The ancients had no concept of a continent or of continents coming together or breaking apart under tectonic pressure. Such truths had to wait for science to emerge once people had learned to suppress received superstitions sufficiently to begin a systematic empirical inquiry into nature.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Ok, maybe this help to understand that there was one sea and one dry land area:

And God said, Let the waters under the heavens be collected to one place, and let the dry land appear. And it was so.
Gen. 1:9

This was already explained to you. Why repeat this nonsense? You had no answer to the corrections and now you have gone back to this refuted idea. That makes it look as if you were lying.

 

[shunyadragon]

My point was to show that Bible has an idea that people could not know without God, in the ancient times.

The problem remains that this claim remains unbelievably false, and only exists in your delusional imagination based on an ancient tribal religious agenda. No one has ever remotely reached this conclusion in the past. Continental drift has demonstrated there was one continent two times in Earth's history.

It doesn't make the modern idea of continental drift correct, nor the theory of evolution. Those theories are correct, if they can be proven correct.

Continental drift and evolution have been falsified and demonstrated correct beyond any reasonable doubt. Again . . . fortunately there is no proof in science.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Ok, maybe this help to understand that there was one sea and one dry land area:

And God said, Let the waters under the heavens be collected to one place, and let the dry land appear. And it was so.
Gen. 1:9

Sorry, although this verse says that at one time the waters were collected in one place, it makes no similar remark about the land.

 

[Audie]

Sorry, although this verse says that at one time the waters were collected in one place, it makes no similar remark about the land.

One place. One.
No lakes allowed.
No underground water ( fountains of the deep)
No clouds
No living things

 

[IndigoChild5559]

One place. One.
No lakes allowed.
No underground water ( fountains of the deep)
No clouds
No living things

Audie: you can't imagine all the water being in the ocean with many continents?
wow.

 

[Audie]

Audie: you can't imagine all the water being in the ocean with many continents?
wow.

You thought that's what I meant?