Challenge for atheists, worship Satan.

[Shadow Wolf]

If a satanist thinks they are getting something for free, that's just there mistake.

I agree it would be a mistake, as "freebies" aren't a part of Satanism.

 

[Mindmaster]

Nothing to do with the premise. Theistic Satanism is generally give reward type of scenario. That's why you sign your soul over to Satan.
Note that for real theistic Satanists, there is no pretense that they aren't paying for what they get, or what they think they will get, in one of the Hells.

If a satanist thinks they are getting something for free, that's just there mistake.

You apparently know nothing about theistic Satanism, but that's OK nearly no one else does either.

1) No one sells their soul....

2) Reward is subjective, but generally the reward in theistic Satanism is autonomy and communication. Some people think that's enough, but others don't. Different strokes.

3) They don't care about or believe in Abrahamic concepts of Satan, they also probably don't believe in the simple good/evil dichotomy.

4) Most don't choose to become this or that, they learn what they are called to and manifest that.

 

[ecco]

Read the premise again,people were reading into it, its edited.

Is this your reworded, edited version...

Since atheists don't believe in Satan, here is a challenge, that is simple.

Worship Satan as sincerely as you can. Then note if anything happens. If atheism is real, nothing should happen. This doesn't mean something "bad", happening to you, [that is ridiculous, and unBiblical], it means some indication that Satan is real, etc.

Shalom

That changes nothing. I worshiped; Satan came to me.

Care to address my post #42

 

[LuisDantas]

Since atheists don't believe in Satan, here is a challenge, that is simple.

Worship Satan as sincerely as you can.

Uh. I take it that you have a hard time understanding atheism?

 

[Desert Snake]

You apparently know nothing about theistic Satanism, but that's OK nearly no one else does either.

1) No one sells their soul....

2) Reward is subjective, but generally the reward in theistic Satanism is autonomy and communication. Some people think that's enough, but others don't. Different strokes.

3) They don't care about or believe in Abrahamic concepts of Satan, they also probably don't believe in the simple good/evil dichotomy.

4) Most don't choose to become this or that, they learn what they are called to and manifest that.

That's weird, since they're using a Hebrew name/word, for the entity.

 

[Desert Snake]

Uh. I take it that you have a hard time understanding atheism?

Seems to be unBiblical, as most of the atheists interpreted "something happening", as a 'punishment', or something.

Has anyone read their Bibles.?

 

[Desert Snake]

Punishment occurs in Hell, after the Judgement.

This is the draw of worshipping Satan, in the first place. A temporary reward.

There is nothing saying that Satan may not reward his followers, for worship.

 

[Mindmaster]

That's weird, since they're using a Hebrew name/word, for the entity.

Yeah, but what they believe Satan is and what Judaism+ believes are two completely different things.

 

[YmirGF]

A lot of people in the occult haven't necessarily been theists. Sincerely here, means taking the challenge seriously, which could involve more than just trying to believe that you are worshipping Satan. It's a general meaning word, here.

Thank you so much for clarifying something that is so patently obvious. At least the folks in the cheap seats might get it now. Further, I utterly reject any concepts of demons, devils, Satan, Shaytan et al. It would therefore be quite impossible for me to attempt such a supercilious idea.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

Worship Satan as sincerely as you can. Then note if anything happens. If atheism is real, nothing should happen. If Satan is real, you might get an indication of that, via Spiritual awareness, etc, of such.

The theistic Satanists I've spoken to all seem to feel spiritual awareness of him. I'm aware of him, too, I just don't particularly like him.

I don't let Satan wear the pants in our relationship. He worships me.

Ah, someone who understands the real way to have a relationship with him.

You don't need all the theatrics of the Exorcist. Just say, "Look, jerk, get out." And the jerk gets out.

He's a character from Dragonball Z.

LOL. And actually is somewhat heroic although it's entirely by accident and good comic relief writing.

The most important moment of Satan.

And who screws it up? Some "normal" idiot.

I think Christians can reluctantly worship Satan.

I think many already do. As soon as I hear "Satan is the ruler of this world", then I know they have essentially said God is no longer in the God business.

Theistic Satanism is generally give reward type of scenario. That's why you sign your soul over to Satan.

Isn't the promise of a supernatural carrot the reason people sign on to Team Yahweh?

What's the difference?

What happens if the same things happens when you worship Jesus or Jehovah?

Yeah, even Christians will say that God doesn't talk to people. Again, Christianity is ironically very atheistic even about its own God, because they try their damnedest to make Him as impotent and useless as possible.

Punishment occurs in Hell, after the Judgement.

How are evil people punished in hell? Wouldn't forcing them to live in Heaven be more cruel?

This is the draw of worshipping Satan, in the first place. A temporary reward.

How many requests does God get for temporary and objectively meaningless things?

 

[ADigitalArtist]

That's weird, since they're using a Hebrew name/word, for the entity.

The idea of Satan as an evil entity is a Christian concept. Not a Hebrew one. Satan in Judaism is either:
1. An angel who serves God by testing mankind, who could no more rebel than your hand could as his will is just an extension of God's.
2. Mankind's own inclination to fall short of said will.

The word means different things to different people.

 

[Sir Doom]

LOL. And actually is somewhat heroic although it's entirely by accident and good comic relief writing.

The most important moment of Satan.

And who screws it up? Some "normal" idiot.

HAHA! My favorite is from the Janenba movie when he karate chops zombies in downtown Tokyo.

And who doesn't love his Bob Ross hairdo?

 

[Audie]

Since atheists don't believe in Satan, here is a challenge, that is simple.

Worship Satan as sincerely as you can. Then note if anything happens. If atheism is real, nothing should happen. If Satan is real, you might get an indication of that, via Spiritual awareness, etc, of such.

Shalom

As sincerely as I can?? As sincerely as you could
ask a rovk to cook supper for you.

See, you "religious" people are great at pretense.
"Choose to believe", yes believe the unbelievable.

You are believers, you believe things. Fishrrmen fish,
farmers farm, believers believe.

Those who are not into self deception like choosing
to believe, or praying to an empty sky, are atheists.

 

[blü 2]

Worship Satan as sincerely as you can. Then note if anything happens. If atheism is real, nothing should happen.

Were one sincere in one's worship, a live possibility is that one would spook oneself out with all kinds of unforeseen results.

But Satan is problematic at best anyway. In the Tanakh he's a member of Yahweh's Civil Service, a counselor or Secretary, someone God makes bets with in bars eg the Job file. He's not the serpent, he's not 'Lucifer' in Isaiah, he's just a face around the Court of Heaven. His bad press comes from the NT, where he's cast as the Enemy. But what does that mean? What is a worshiper of some other god's underling trying to do?

If Satan is real, you might get an indication of that, via Spiritual awareness, etc, of such.

If Satan is real then he has objective existence and you can show him to us. If, like Yahweh, he's imaginary, you can't.

And since you can't, who wants to worship an imaginary god?

Who wants to worship anyone or anything anyway?

 

[nPeace]

Since atheists don't believe in Satan, here is a challenge, that is simple.

Worship Satan as sincerely as you can. Then note if anything happens. If atheism is real, nothing should happen. If Satan is real, you might get an indication of that, via Spiritual awareness, etc, of such.

Shalom

Nice try. It won't work though.

 

[LuisDantas]

Seems to be supersticious, and unBiblical, as most of the atheists interpreted "something happening", as a 'punishment', or something.

Has anyone read their Bibles.?

I will take that as an "yes".

 

[Desert Snake]

Yeah, but what they believe Satan is and what Judaism+ believes are two completely different things.

This brings us to the issue of whether "deception", is involved, when one chooses to worship Satan. The religious texts tell you who Satan is, Satan presumably answers to the name Satan, and the context is usually a Spiritual one...
So, at time of Judgement, the Satanist is going to say, "I didn't know who Satan was" !?

 

[Desert Snake]

Were one sincere in one's worship, a live possibility is that one would spook oneself out with all kinds of unforeseen results.

But Satan is problematic at best anyway. In the Tanakh he's a member of Yahweh's Civil Service, a counselor or Secretary, someone God makes bets with in bars eg the Job file. He's not the serpent, he's not 'Lucifer' in Isaiah, he's just a face around the Court of Heaven. His bad press comes from the NT, where he's cast as the Enemy. But what does that mean? What is a worshiper of some other god's underling trying to do?

The idea that Satan is the fallen angel, is easily interpreted from the texts, overall.

 

[Mindmaster]

This brings us to the issue of whether "deception", is involved, when one chooses to worship Satan. The religious texts tell you who Satan is, Satan presumably answers to the name Satan, and the context is usually a Spiritual one...
So, at time of Judgement, the Satanist is going to say, " I didn't know who Satan was" !?

Or, you could just like... figure out who Satan is and ignore the book, so to speak.

Second hand knowledge of spiritual beings is worthless, in my opinion. If you're too afraid to investigate on your own you're just grasping at straws. You have no idea if the people whom wrote what you are read are lying. The very processes which this could happen in the context of Christian are forbidden... and it's no wonder why... It's easier to lie about things like Satan and other "demons" if you condemn the actions required to find out the truth of it for yourself.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

This brings us to the issue of whether "deception", is involved, when one chooses to worship Satan. The religious texts tell you who Satan is, Satan presumably answers to the name Satan, and the context is usually a Spiritual one...
So, at time of Judgement, the Satanist is going to say, "I didn't know who Satan was" !?

Satan isnt a name any more than 'Christ' is. It's a descriptor. one with very different meanings form the Torah to the Christian texts.