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Challenge for those that believe in billions of years for the age of things. Give anything that is more than 6000 years old. NO ASSUMPTIONS ALLOWED.

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URAVIP2ME

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McBell said:
Difficult to take any of your Bible claims seriously when you do not even know which KJV you are actually using.
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Besides the King James there are the ancient manuscripts to compare.
King James did Not divulge any of the names of the translators in his authorized version.
And, even though language gets updated, so to speak, we can find the harmony because of NT counterpoints with the OT.
 
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URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
SavedByTheLord said:
The King James Bible is the word of God without error.
The new versions are corrupted but that was predictEd by the word of God.
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I find the Bible was Not originally written in King James English.
How to you explain the word ' unicorn ' found at Job 39:9 KJV
Or explain to us Psalm 22:21 __________ or Psalm 29:6 __________
How strong is a unicorn ? _______ - Numbers 24:8
What about the unicorns found at KJV Isaiah 34:7; 58:8 b ________

When did Babylon become a dwelling place for dragons - Jeremiah 51:37

Please explain to us:
Genesis 25:29
Leviticus 26:16
Isaiah 14:23
 
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URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
SavedByTheLord said:
........ The moon, sun, and the stars were created on day 4. Light was created on day 1. The heavens created on day 1 do mean all space.
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Huh? I do Not find the word ' created ' on day 4 even in the King James. - See KJV Genesis 1:14-19
Rather, I find God gave the already existing created sun, moon and stars a job to do.
God ' made ' ( see verse 16 ) Not God 'created'.
Kind of like parents who pro-created a child and the already existing child was 'made' to do something.
Like ' made ' to sit in a chair, ' made ' to go to school........
Again, No one will find the word ' created ' on Day Four.
 
SavedByTheLord

SavedByTheLord

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URAVIP2ME said:
Huh? I do Not find the word ' created ' on day 4 even in the King James. - See KJV Genesis 1:14-19
Rather, I find God gave the already existing created sun, moon and stars a job to do.
God ' made ' ( see verse 16 ) Not God 'created'.
Kind of like parents who pro-created a child and the already existing child was 'made' to do something.
Like ' made ' to sit in a chair, ' made ' to go to school........
Again, No one will find the word ' created ' on Day Four.
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God making it means it did not exist before,
For example, if I made a chair did the chair exist before?
 
TagliatelliMonster

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
SavedByTheLord said:
There has to a Bible today that is without error because God promised that.
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Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

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Audie said:
Which part is correct?
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Some of the names in history appear to be correct. And certain events. For example the "prophecies" made after the fact in Daniel accurately name the ruler of Babylon at the time of the Babylonian captivity. But overall the Bible appears to be more wrong than right. And let's not talk about morals. Though for us guys some of the rules do not sound so bad. You can go and get a female sex slave according to the Bible if you can afford one. Sounds interesting. Oddly enough almost everyone thinks that is immoral today. Even Christians have that belief even though their book says otherwise.
 
SavedByTheLord

SavedByTheLord

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Subduction Zone said:
Some of the names in history appear to be correct. And certain events. For example the "prophecies" made after the fact in Daniel accurately name the ruler of Babylon at the time of the Babylonian captivity. But overall the Bible appears to be more wrong than right. And let's not talk about morals. Though for us guys some of the rules do not sound so bad. You can go and get a female sex slave according to the Bible if you can afford one. Sounds interesting. Oddly enough almost everyone thinks that is immoral today. Even Christians have that belief even though their book says otherwise.
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There is no place where God approves of getting a female sex slave.
 
SavedByTheLord

SavedByTheLord

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Subduction Zone said:
If it says that you can sell your daughter to be a sex slave that is approving. Once again you are wrong about your own book of myths.
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The Bible does not say that.
Wrong yet again.
That does happen a lot with atheists, and those that believe in evolution or billions of years, or in false gods.
 
McBell

McBell

Unbound
SavedByTheLord said:
The Bible does not say that.
Wrong yet again.
That does happen a lot with atheists, and those that believe in evolution or billions of years, or in false gods.
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Exodus 21:7-11
And if a man sells his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do.​
If she does not please her master, who has betrothed her to himself, then he shall let her be redeemed. He shall have no power to sell her to a strange nation, since he has dealt deceitfully with her.​
And if he has betrothed her to his son, he shall deal with her as with daughters.​
If he takes himself another wife, her food, her clothing, and her duty of marriage shall not be lessened.​
And if he does not do these three to her, then she shall go out free without money.
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Holy Bible​
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How embarrassing for you...
 
ratiocinator

ratiocinator

Lightly seared on the reality grill.
SavedByTheLord said:
That does happen a lot with atheists, and those that believe in evolution or billions of years, or in false gods.
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Yet another unsupported assertion. :rolleyes:

You do realise that just saying something, doesn't make it true, don't you?

Although your 'perfect' bible quite clearly condones slavery, most of the rest of the world has long since moved on, including most Christians, many of whom now desperately try to pretend that the bible doesn't mean what it says.
 
SavedByTheLord

SavedByTheLord

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ratiocinator said:
Yet another unsupported assertion. :rolleyes:

You do realise that just saying something, doesn't make it true, don't you?

Although your 'perfect' bible quite clearly condones slavery, most of the rest of the world has long since moved on, including most Christians, many of whom now desperately try to pretend that the bible doesn't mean what it says.
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God does not condone slavery in the Bible.
God does allow evil because if God destroyed all evil there would be no one left.
However, eventually God will destroy all evil because all the saved will be made perfect.
 
ratiocinator

ratiocinator

Lightly seared on the reality grill.
SavedByTheLord said:
God does not condone slavery in the Bible.
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Yeah, right.

44 Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids.​
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45 Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession.​
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46 And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour.​

And that's just one of many examples. Another given in #2,072.

SavedByTheLord said:
God does allow evil because if God destroyed all evil there would be no one left.
However, eventually God will destroy all evil because all the saved will be made perfect.
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Yet another example of your god being unfair and unjust, then.
 
SavedByTheLord

SavedByTheLord

Well-Known Member
ratiocinator said:
Yeah, right.

44 Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids.​
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45 Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession.​
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46 And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour.​

And that's just one of many examples. Another given in #2,072.


Yet another example of your god being unfair and unjust, then.
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And where do you see the words slave or slavery in that passage?
 
TagliatelliMonster

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
SavedByTheLord said:
There is no place where God approves of getting a female sex slave.
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Numbers 31:17-18 New Living Translation (NLT)So kill all the boys and all the women who have had intercourse with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.


I don't think that by "keep them for yourselves" it is meant to have them do your laundry.
 
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