Charlie Hebdo to attack Muslims again

[Spirit of Light]

How you wrote the OP, you give a very strange picture of reality, as if this "magazine" here is the "bad guy"

I do hope, that you realize that those Muslims who did the killing were the really Adharmic bad guys?

All I have said is that Charlie he do should never made that drawing, that is what is bothering me, I do of course not support those Muslims who are killing or harming others, but this thread was about thedrawing and those who created it.

 

[stvdv]

Not really.

What the world has seen is a lot of civilized people scared to death to offend them, given their propensity to blow everyone up. And even people who justify their killing because they touched poor Mohammed. Awww.

and I am proud that there is someone showing some balls and defiance, by publishing those cartoons again.,

Agreed, we really need to teach Islam/Muslims a Western lesson here. Islam might call itself Religion of Peace, but this action nullifies this

 

[stvdv]

All I have said is that Charlie he do should never made that drawing, that is what is bothering me, I do of course not support those Muslims who are killing or harming others, but this thread was about thedrawing and those who created it.

But do you not see the need that those Muslims really need to grow up. They act like little children (but then the psychopath type). Need to be corrected

 

[stvdv]

What the world has seen is the invasion of an intolerant culture that did not go through any enlightenment, and we are supposed to respect by default for some mysterious reason. Or Swedish girls harassed in Malmö because they wear a mini skirt. Or show their blonde hair, or are not dressed like Batman.

IMO: It would be good to make all Muslims coming to the West sign a letter stating:
1) "I agree that the West can draw cartoons of Muhammad"
2) "I agree that it's wrong of Islam or Muslims to get violent over this"
3) "I agree to be deported if I indulge in any violence in name of Islam"

This is a very big problem. In Hindu Scriptures I read that Ego is a problem to get rid of. But Spiritual Ego is 1000 times bigger a problem. Even God can't cure this. Clearly these Muslims, who are willing to kill over Muhammad drawing, or who even get upset over that, suffer Spiritual Ego/arrogance.

And if God can't cure this, then it is essential that we really teach them this lesson once and for all. Otherwise we will be fools and not safe, and soon killed

 

[stvdv]

I wonder what would happen if they made the Mohammed equivalent of The Life of Bryan. An atomic war?

Baby steps @Viole, that would be like "university exam"

 

[ppp]

All I have said is that Charlie he do should never made that drawing, that is what is bothering me, I do of course not support those Muslims who are killing or harming others, but this thread was about thedrawing and those who created it.

'Should not' implies a moral or ethical duty not to do something. In this case, not to make a drawing of Mohammed. On what basis to you claim that Charlie Hebdo should not have made that drawing, if not on the basis of Muslim blasphemy doctrines?

 

[Spirit of Light]

But do you not see the need that those Muslims really need to grow up. They act like little children (but then the psychopath type). Needs correction

The one who do killing, yes of course they must really study more, 99% of Muslims are not like them, example is my girlfriend who is a Sunni Muslim, she does not wish to harm or do bad to others or her self.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

When will this ****ty "satire" magazine stop harasment of the Prophet Muhammad?

When will the "****ty muslims stop burning embassies and killing people because someone made a funny drawing?

Again they are planning to re publication of the idiotic drawings from 2015.

Drawings. Exactly. Drawings.
What's REALLY idiotic here? The drawings? Or the reaction to those drawings by certain ****ty people?

Did they not learn anything last time?

They learned that they should never surrender to intolerent pigs who hate freedom. And I for one applaud them for it.

 

[Spirit of Light]

'Should not' implies a moral or ethical duty not to do something. In this case, not to make a drawing of Mohammed. On what basis to you claim that Charlie Hebdo should not have made that drawing, if not on the basis of Muslim blasphemy doctrines?

That it was made to provoke and to hurt Muslims feeling, that is enough to not draw something like that.

 

[Spirit of Light]

When will the "****ty muslims stop burning embassies and killing people because someone made a funny drawing?



Drawings. Exactly. Drawings.
What's REALLY idiotic here? The drawings? Or the reaction to those drawings by certain ****ty people?



They learned that they should never surrender to intolerent pigs who hate freedom. And I for one applaud them for it.

Honestly I did not expect more from you, so no worries

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Islam say portrait of the prophet is not right to do, what is weak about following the teaching?

Nobody is forcing the followers of said religion to make portraits of their prophet.
They are more then free to not make such portraits or hang them up in their houses.
Nobody is forcing them to buy copies of said magazine.

Why are you complaining about the magazine?
Why aren't you complaining about religious extremists trying to force their religious rules on others?
Why aren't you complaining about the barbarity with which they try to force those rules upon others?

Is that you in your picture?
Perhaps I have a religious beliefs that "beards are not right to do". Perhaps you should shave in order to not offend me? Would you? No? Then you don't get to complain about somebody making a drawing that some religion doesn't approve of.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

How about showing respect for the Muslim people, even we are not Muslims?

Sorry, but the people who reply to a cartoon with the burning of embassies, the calls for deadly attacks, riotting, killings, etc are not worthy of respect.

Respect is not something that is granted by default. It needs to be earned.

And it goes both ways as well. How about muslims show respect for western culture where satire and parody fall within freedom of artistic expression?

 

[ppp]

That it was made to provoke and to hurt Muslims feeling, that is enough to not draw something like that.

That is not so much of a duty on them, but a desire by you. Are you obligated not to hurt my feelings? Will you allow me to constrain your speech on that basis? FWIW, I don't think you are.

 

[Eddi]

When will this ****ty "satire" magazine stop harasment of the Prophet Muhammad?
Again they are planning to re publication of the idiotic drawings from 2015. Did they not learn anything last time?

 

[Spirit of Light]

That is not so much of a duty on them, but a desire by you. Are you obligated not to hurt my feelings? Will you allow me to constrain your speech on that basis? FWIW, I don't think you are.

I am allowed to have my opinion and views, and understanding of Islam, just as you are allowed to have yours.
But it seem that since I support the right to be a Muslim with the rules a Muslim live by, I am the bad one in RF right now.
I did not expect when I made the OP that everybody would attack me personally. But it happens.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Explain?

 

[Eddi]

Explain?

They did not "attack moslems", by publishing that cartoon, that is simply ridiculous

And "Did they not learn anything last time?" sounds like you are condoning the murderous attack on their offices - that they a) did something wrong that b) deserved the murderous attack

Both of which are frankly outrageous things to say

...but then we have freedom of speech so yes, you do have a right to say such things, just as I have a right to reject what you say

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

No I say respect others the way you want to be respected your self

I don't mind people making jokes about anything important to me.
And even if I did, I'ld respect their right to do so, because I'ld expect them to tolerate my jokes about them as well.


But let's be serious... what you are here are calling "respect" really means "bow down out of fear".

Go look at episodes of south park and how Jesus is depicted there. Plenty of episodes starring him. 100x "worse" then any mohammed cartoon ever made. But nobody cries about that one. You don't make a thread about that one. Why? You know why.

 

[Revoltingest]

I have nothing more to say in this thread. It did go very bad compared to what my intention was

But at least it was interesting.
My threads often go south too.
So it goes on RF.

 

[Spirit of Light]

They did not "attack moslems", by publishing that cartoon, that is simply ridiculous

And "Did they not learn anything last time?" sounds like you are condoning the murderous attack on their offices - that they a) did something wrong that b) deserved the murderous attack

Both of which are frankly outrageous things to say

...but then we have freedom of speech so yes, you do have a right to say such things, just as I have a right to reject what you say

I do not support attacks on anyone, I support Islam as a religious path those who wish can follow. And I am against caricature of Muhammad