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Charlie Hebdo to attack Muslims again

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
I am not being threaten like that no, but a good portion of the comments could be taken as a hate toward my GF because of her religion


Such as?


ps: half my family = muslim
pps: on this point, they agree with me and acknowledge cartoonists rights to draw whatever the heck they please.
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
Islam say portrait of the prophet is not right to do, what is weak about following the teaching?
Nothing is wrong if a Muslim doesn't draw portraits of Mohamed. Everything is wrong if a Muslim wants to tell a non-Muslim that he can't draw Mohamed.

Cool: I can't do that, it's against my religion.
Not cool: You can't do that, it's against my religion.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
It is said that drawing of Muhammad or Allah should not be done

Why the heck not?


So I can not see the use of someone doing that to provoke muslims

Perhaps those muslims shouldn't be so easily triggered.
Perhaps you should complain about that instead of a cartoonist making a silly drawing.

Making drawing is a completely victimless action.
That people take offence is their problem.

Again, I can take offense at your beard. Does that mean that you, along with everybody else, needs to shave?
 

ppp

Well-Known Member
I do not advocate that Islam should be everywhere, I say it is to much hate toward Muslims in today's world. The hate should be toward the terrorists, not the common Muslim.
IMHO, hating people is too consuming and toxic to maintain. Contempt for the belief of specific claims is more practicable, and to the relevant point.

Also, annoyingly enough, there are people whom I like who hold beliefs that I despise. And people whom I dislike who hold beliefs that I admire. Life is not neat and orderly.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
I do not advocate that Islam should be everywhere, I say it is to much hate toward Muslims in today's world. The hate should be toward the terrorists, not the common Muslim.
Sai Baba always said "Tell me your company, I tell you who you are"

It is about high time, that the Muslim world, I mean the highest Imams, start shouting from the roof tops "The West can draw Muhammad", as they are not Muslim and live in a free country (printing it front page for 1 year would also do).

The day they do this, I know they have taken this issue serious. As long as they do not do this, they kind of agree to this

When you see an error, you MUST correct. And this is a huge error in name of Islam
And the Koran is known for the violent verses (like Bible), so more reason to correct this
(When I read the Koran I must be very created to not see the anti non-Muslims verses)
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
Islamic law is for Muslims yes, as far as I know anyway. But my question is, why bring that horrendous drawing back now? Why can they not leave it? Has not the world seen enough Islamophobic actions?
We have frequent tests in school to see if the students have learned. This is a test if the Muslim have learned that the Qur'an is for Muslim and doesn't apply to non Muslim.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
There's nothing weak about following a teaching... however it's a sign of seriously weak faith if you insist that EVERYONE else must ALSO follow whatever teaching you have chosen to follow.
And the real issue here: It is a sign of psychopathy if you kill others who disobey your Religion, while having another (non) religion themselves
(This is the most extreme, inhumane, obsessive, violent, psychopathic form of bad proselytizing)
 
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QuestioningMind

Well-Known Member
I have never said you or other have to follow Islamic teaching, but I do not understand why people can not respect that Muslims should not create picture of Muhammad, you do not need to follow a teaching to show respect to what it say.

So if Muslims are not supposed to create pictures of Muhammad, why are Muslims getting upset when non-Muslims draw such pictures? I understand that Muslims are not supposed to eat pork... does that mean they also get upset and threaten to kill people every time non-Muslims eat pork?
 

A Vestigial Mote

Well-Known Member
Your interpretation of what I believe or should believe
When you hold an opinion that is not ever going to be held by the majority of your intellectual/spiritual peers (like the opinion that the people at Charlie Hebdo should bend to the fear of attacks by the nuttiest practitioners of Islam and not go about the business of publishing cartoons) you're going to get pushed back on, and you're going to be challenged, and you're going to hear enough well-reasoned arguments and good, applicable analogies to make your head spin off of your neck.

If anyone should have expected anything, it should have been you expecting to be pinned down and spanked for these opinions you hold. There is absolutely no good reason I can think of that anyone should relent on this course. I suggest you learn, and learn well from this experience.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
A minority of Muslims has a history of violence. Not every Muslim is evil people not is Islam an evil religion.
Uh huh.

Stoning (Rajm) (رجم) in Islam refers to the Hudud punishment wherein an organized group throws stones at a convicted individual until that person dies. Under some versions of Islamic law (Sharia), it is the prescribed punishment in cases of adultery committed by a married man or married woman

Although stoning is also applied to men, the vast majority of the victims are reported to be women. According to the international group Women Living.

Under Muslim Laws stoning "is one of the most brutal forms of violence perpetrated against women in order to control and punish their sexuality and basic freedoms".


Surah 3:151: “We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve (all non-Muslims) ...”
Surah 2:191: “And kill them (non-Muslims) wherever you find them ... kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers (non-Muslims).”

Surah 9:5: “Then kill the disbelievers (non-Muslims) wherever you find them, capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush ...”

And before you feel that I am just anti-Muslim, you should know that I have also quoted the atrocities espoused by the Judeo/Christian God like the raping the young daughters of defeated soldiers.



The difference is that, at least these days, someone can point out the atrocities espoused by The Bible without fearing that they will be bombed or beheaded.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
When will this ****ty "satire" magazine stop harasment of the Prophet Muhammad?
Again they are planning to re publication of the idiotic drawings from 2015. Did they not learn anything last time?

I really think you are backing a looser here. That one single act of terrorism has only been surpassed one time for discrediting islam.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
Bible is clear "Love is highest Commandment"
Bible is clear...
Numbers 31
7And they warred against the Midianites, as the LORD commanded Moses; and they slew all the males. 8And they slew the kings of Midian, beside the rest of them that were slain; namely, Evi, and Rekem, and Zur, and Hur, and Reba, five kings of Midian: Balaam also the son of Beor they slew with the sword. 9And the children of Israel took all the women of Midian captives, and their little ones, and took the spoil of all their cattle, and all their flocks, and all their goods. 10And they burnt all their cities wherein they dwelt,
...
15And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive? 16Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD. 17Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. 18But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

That doesn't sound like a whole lotta luvin'.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Bible is clear...
Numbers 31
7And they warred against the Midianites, as the LORD commanded Moses; and they slew all the males. 8And they slew the kings of Midian, beside the rest of them that were slain; namely, Evi, and Rekem, and Zur, and Hur, and Reba, five kings of Midian: Balaam also the son of Beor they slew with the sword. 9And the children of Israel took all the women of Midian captives, and their little ones, and took the spoil of all their cattle, and all their flocks, and all their goods. 10And they burnt all their cities wherein they dwelt,
...
15And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive? 16Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD. 17Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. 18But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

That doesn't sound like a whole lotta luvin'.

And there are lots more luvin verses to keep the good Christian happy
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
When will this ****ty "satire" magazine stop harasment of the Prophet Muhammad?
Again they are planning to re publication of the idiotic drawings from 2015. Did they not learn anything last time?
They'll probably do mostly anything for a franc or two. Maybe their sales were slipping.

Trouble is, in France their sales may well increase for printing such muck.
 
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