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How so?Actually his points convinced me that I was wrong about judging the man harshly without knowing enough about him.
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How so?Actually his points convinced me that I was wrong about judging the man harshly without knowing enough about him.
If I ever choke on my food I will never ever try and pass it off as anyone else's faultSighs. Go ahead with that attitude. When you old and possibly showing signs of dysphagia and choke due to it hopefully no one calls you a pig and blame you for almost dying despite being careful eating.
People are flawed beings. I'd rather not blame someone for almost dying because they may have missed chewed or for other reasons.
He took my statement to an extreme and made its flaws obvious to me.How so?
I totally agree and I do think that the court got this one wrong. And we don't know if this guy was disabled by an eating disorder or not for that matter.I find it horrendous someone would blame someone for almost dying like it isn't common for food to go down the wrong pipe and such.
I never said pass the blame to someone else. Just don't blame them for choking.If I ever choke on my food I will never ever try and pass it off as anyone else's fault
Because I will be then as I am now a responsible adult
Nods. Good pointHe took my statement to an extreme and made its flaws obvious to me.
Sometimes a bad example can be useful.
Sure, maybe for his own safety. But legally? If the product is advertised as boneless, how is the producer not responsible if a bone injures him?Well, he obviously wasn't paying as much attention as he should have been that's for sure
He should have payed attention to what was in his mouth, so yes
And not be like a walrus gulping down a bucket of fish in a zoo
Because he should have been chewing his food properly regardless of whether or not there may have been bones in it?If the product is advertised as boneless, how is the producer not responsible if a bone injures him?
Regardless of "chewing his food properly" that doesn't absolve the producer of responsibility for their product regardless. It was advertised as boneless. A bone - a food contaminant - caused a medical emergency, not "improper chewing" (seriously?) in of itself.Because he should have been chewing his food properly regardless of whether or not there may have been bones in it?
That's why I dont think the court got it wrong here. Unless the company intentionally left tons of bones here it's easy for bones to slip through the cracks. Even with machinery that helps with that mistakes can happen bone gets left by accident. Company is not responsible for that. Chickens got bones it happens.personally have found It is very hard to get all bones out of a chicken, even when it is cooked. If one eats chicken often, they would know that boneless chicken is not always 100% boneless. Just last night we fed a meal to our visitors that included chicken we had taken the bones out of, 3 bones were still found during the eating process. The easiest one missed is the needle like one in the drumstick
Yet had he carefully chewed whatever was in his mouth and ate his food in a civilised manner and pace then there would have been no (entirely self inflicted) medical emergency.Regardless of "chewing his food properly" that doesn't absolve the producer of responsibility for their product regardless. It was advertised as boneless. A bone - a food contaminant - caused a medical emergency, not "improper chewing" (seriously?) in of itself.
Rereading it he hadn't choked. But this doesnt sound good and i still think it's no ones fault here and glad he survived.Michael Berkheimer was dining with his wife and friends at a wing joint in Hamilton, Ohio, and had ordered the usual — boneless wings with parmesan garlic sauce — when he felt a bite-size piece of meat go down the wrong way. Three days later, feverish and unable to keep food down, Berkeimer went to the emergency room, where a doctor discovered a long, thin bone that had torn his esophagus and caused an infection.
Then why are you engaging in this victim blaming instead of the actual issue here?Him being at fault and the advertising being off are two separate issues here.
YesYou never had food go down the wrong way? Ever?
I'm saying I wouldn't blame anyone here. I dont think this was anyone's faultYes
And it was entirely my own fault
Nobody else's
It will always be my own fault
I am a responsible adult
I wouldn't call him a "victim" as what happened was purely his own faultThen why are you engaging in this victim blaming instead of the actual issue here?
Nah, don't necessarily have to go that far (though it'd be ideal) - just have a warning label or disclaimer. They do that on salmon products because salmon have so many tiny bones it is very common for some to be left in the product.They should change boneless nuggets, into less bone nuggets.
No, it wasn't. He didn't raise the chicken, slaughter the chicken, create the product, or market the product. Someone else did that.I wouldn't call him a "victim" as what happened was purely his own fault