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"Blessed are the peace (sign) makers"
"Blessed are those who hunger and thirst (munchies? Cotton mouth?)"
Christ is not some "hippy"
Then I'm gonna pass on the gift of salvation.I think the view of Christianity as to be "loving and non-judgmental" misses the point.
Christ said he came not to bring peace on earth but a sword. Matt. 10
The reason is because Christianity would be the vehicle to convert the world to God; before the final Judgment.
So - that conversion would pit people against each other, families, friends everyone. Christ knew this.
He didn't come to bring peace, he came to judge those who were wrong; and to convert those who were right and to therefore fulfill the next to last chapter of God's plan.
Where?Christ says to judge someone, but not to do so as a hypocrite, he still tells you to judge however.
I just fruballed this post, but for some reason, my comments were not recorded. Anyway, I really liked what you had to say and I agree with you 100%. That's why I fruballed you.In my mind, we could summarize something of the hippy spirit in the Beatles' song "All you need is love". Its catchy, it sounds nice, until you think about it more deeply and you realize that they are not speicifying what love is, or exactly how they mean it. The same with peace, John Lenon's song comes to mind, "Imagine"; for him peace meant no heaven, no hell, no transcendence, no values, no concern for truth...a brotherhood, a common humanity, but rooted in what? On the face of it sounds appealing, until we push deeper and find only sentiments.
Why love the other, especially in his most distant and removed forms, those who don't see me or can't reciprocate, those with whom I fail to identify or might even be moved to hate? Can we really be moved to this kind of radical love with a purely ordinary or immanent view of the world?
I agree that Christ is not a hippy. He too said that "all we need is love" but he went forward and defined that love by taking it to the Cross. He showed that creative love is the founding and sustaining principle of the cosmos and the very being of God. He is creating a common "brotherhood of man" because he descended from the heights to become our brother and to become the basis for a new ontological unity of humanity rooted in faith and forgiveness. He is the one who "lives for the other" and he has given himself over fully, bringing all into one body through the sharing of his flesh and blood, living both wholly for man and for the Father.
He also asks us to "imagine" peace, but its not a neutered peace that stands agnostic to the truth, but rather arises on account of it, a peace that is really eternal and final and worth all of our effort and self- sacrifice, precisely because we are wedged between heaven and hell.
In short, the reason that Christ is not a hippy is, I think, not really for the reasons you mentioned. Christ is all about love and harmony, but he defines it with significant more depth, as an action and a reality that places us between the transforming tensions of both judegment and mercy. It is not whimsical or catchy dreaming, not an eroticization of all relationships, not a life lived "in the moment", but the moment lived out in anticipation of what is to come.
I think your guy sounds kind of scary.....
Wonder why prophecy referred to him as "The Prince of Peace" and his birth was declared as "peace and good will toward men"?
He didn't come to bring peace,
You're reading the wrong Bible, buddy. God is the judge, not Jesus. Jesus came to save, to restore humanity, to bring peace and love. Show me where in scripture this view of Jesus is supported?he came to judge those who were wrong; and to convert those who were right and to therefore fulfill the next to last chapter of God's plan.
(Matthew 5:39) "But I say to you, That you resist not evil: but whoever shall smite you on your right cheek, turn to him the other also."I think the view of Christianity as to be "loving and non-judgmental" misses the point.
Christ said he came not to bring peace on earth but a sword. Matt. 10
....He didn't come to bring peace, he came to judge those who were wrong; and to convert those who were right and to therefore fulfill the next to last chapter of God's plan.
(Matthew 7: 1) "Do not judge others, so that God will not judge you, for God will judge you in the same way you judge others, and he will apply to you the same rules you apply to others."
Well, he did get his head anointed with expensive, fragrant oil.The hair, the sandals, the love...was there patchouli involved?
Jesus was against "the man." He critiqued the establishment. That's what got him crucified. As for working and "being productive," the gospels tell us that he called on fishermen and tax collectors and told them to leave their jobs and follow him. After that, the stories show him drinking (and making) wine at a wedding, feeding the masses with a few loaves and fish, and cursing a fig tree because it didn't have fruit. They don't say anything about him working in the traditional sense.For one, I don't think you even understand what hippies were if you attribute only the "loving and non-judgmental" part to being a hippie. Hippies were against working and against "the man." I'm pretty sure Jesus wanted people to be productive members of society as well as being loving and non-judgmental. So the fact that you're calling him a hippie just shows how black and white you view the world.
He tore up the Temple. In the Jewish context of that time, I don't know how much more anti-establishment you can get.Sorry, but Jesus was NOT anti-establishment, that's imaginary history right there. I'd love to see some actual scriptures that support your view.