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Christians: Kill family who mentions other beliefs to you?

Meow Mix

Chatte Féministe
It would be better if getting ourside yourself were real to you, rather than just head knowledge from an example.

So is this just going to end up one of those times where someone says, "I have the answers to your questions about God, but you're not ready for them?"

Like the guru with the cricket in his palm?
 

smokydot

Well-Known Member
So is this just going to end up one of those times where someone says, "I have the answers to your questions about God, but you're not ready for them?"
Like the guru with the cricket in his palm?
Are you looking for an easy way to acquire understanding?
 

Meow Mix

Chatte Féministe
Are you looking for an easy way to acquire understanding?

Just trying to avoid wasting my time. Any concept should be relayable by words, the "guru" schtick is just annoying.

"You aren't ready yet, so I'm not telling :ignore:"

That really grinds my gears. Don't do it, please.
 

painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
Well, "the" owner is the Ruler, Lawgiver and Judge.
Complaining and objecting are useless. . .and put me on the wrong side of the issue.

Not to mention, I completely trust my owner's wisdom, power, justice, judgment, and love.
Ah, blind faith...
Even if your owner tells you to kill another human being... it's ok, because it's out of love eh?

wa:do

ps. how many missionaries have you killed?
 
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smokydot

Well-Known Member
Ah, blind faith...
Even if your owner tells you to kill another human being... it's ok, because it's out of love eh?
Your poor knowledge of Scripture is showing.

God has already revealed in the NT that we are to obey the law, unless the law requires one personally to disobey the law of God.

God does not contradict himself, so he would never tell me to kill someone, which would be breaking the law of this land.

And whoever would give me such a command based in a claim to be God, is a liar. . . because God does not contradict himself.

So the Word of God written protects me from such risk as you propose.

wa:do

ps. how many missionaries have you killed?
If I told you that, I'd have to kill you.
 

smokydot

Well-Known Member
Just trying to avoid wasting my time. Any concept should be relayable by words, the "guru" schtick is just annoying.
It is relayable by words.

But it is based in a reference point other than onesself.

That's the sticky part. . .when one is the center of one's own universe.
"You aren't ready yet, so I'm not telling :ignore:"
That really grinds my gears. Don't do it, please.
If you can't find 'em, grind 'em.
 

Meow Mix

Chatte Féministe
It is relayable by words.

But it is based in a reference point other than onesself.

That's the sticky part. . .when one is the center of one's own universe.
If you can't find 'em, grind 'em.

I take it we have nothing more to talk about on this topic, guess I'll see your around the boards.
 

painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
Your poor knowledge of Scripture is showing.
Nope, just my inability to grasp wiggly logic.;)

God has already revealed in the NT that we are to obey the law, unless the law requires one personally to disobey the law of God.
Isn't not killing a proselytizer personally disobeying a law of God?

God does not contradict himself, so he would never tell me to kill someone, which would be breaking the law of this land.
And if the law of the land was to say... not pray to any Gods?
Or if the law of the land was to go to a foreign nation and murder women and children?

Those laws of the land I presume are OK to break? But then that would be a contradiction... oh noes!

And whoever would give me such a command based in a claim to be God, is a liar. . . because God does not contradict himself.
So the Bible has a few lies in it then? Genesis 1 and 2 contradict one another right off the bat.

So the Word of God written protects me from such risk as you propose.

If I told you that, I'd have to kill you.
I'm not sure that is the word of God you are talking about.

wa:do
 

smokydot

Well-Known Member
Nope, just my inability to grasp wiggly logic.;)
Isn't not killing a proselytizer personally disobeying a law of God?
Your poor knowledge of Scripture is showing again.

Which law would that be?
And if the law of the land was to say... not pray to any Gods?
Or if the law of the land was to go to a foreign nation and murder women and children?
Those laws of the land I presume are OK to break? But then that would be a contradiction... oh noes!
What part of "we are to obey the law" do you not understand?

Your problem is "presuming."
So the Bible has a few lies in it then? Genesis 1 and 2 contradict one another right off the bat.
And again, your poor knowledge of Scripture is showing.

Genesis 1 is a general account of all creation.
Genesis 2, which really should begins at v.4 (the chapter and verse numbers are not Scripture), is a specific account of Adam and Eve.
I'm not sure that is the word of God you are talking about.
The Word of God written of which I speak is the Jewish OT Scriptures and the Christian NT Scriptures, commonly called the Bible in USofA.

 

MW0082

Jesus 4 Profit.... =)~
Your poor knowledge of Scripture is showing again.

Which law would that be?
What part of "we are to obey the law" do you not understand?

Your problem is "presuming."
And again, your poor knowledge of Scripture is showing.

Genesis 1 is a general account of all creation.
Genesis 2, which really should begins at v.4 (the chapter and verse numbers are not Scripture), is a specific account of Adam and Eve.
The Word of God written of which I speak is the Jewish OT Scriptures and the Christian NT Scriptures, commonly called the Bible in USofA.
But the bible is fiction silly.....:yes:
 

Primordial Annihilator

Well-Known Member
"If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;

Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage” (Deuteronomy 13:6-10, KJV).

Can any Christians help me understand the context of this?

The commandments of the OT are routinely discarded except for the ones Jesus alludes to by orthodox Christian interpretation as a new covenent is made between man and God the Father through Christ which centres upon his teachings in the gospels of the NT.

Christianity is not the simple monotheistic worship of the Abrahamic God Jehova of the Torah and OT (God the Father) it is the worship of the new triparite God of the Christians who is God the Father God the Son and God the Holy Spirit....Jesus was God the Son whilst on Earth and now as God the Holy Spirit.
 

painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
lol that was a non sequitor :p
Nope, it's a biblical command...

1Corintians:14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.
14:35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
1Timothy: 2:11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

Also remember your headscarf...
1Corinthians:11:5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.
11:6
For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.

wa:do

ps. this is New Testament stuff... so get the shears!
 
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