Established authority?
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Christians Only: The Book of Mormon
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Common sense .
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That holds no water.
Barry, PLEASE tell me why you are a Christian and believe the Bible. Thus far, the only answer is i’ve gotten from you is “I believe because the text told me I should”.
I trusted The Gospel and was saved by Jesus . The bible confirmed everything that happened to me .
That doesn’t answer my question.
I just read it .
It should have done . Thats the reason I'm a believer .
Trying this again with my answer:
I do NOT believe the Bible because the Bible said I should.
I do NOT believe a word Paul said because Paul said I should.
I do NOT believe the Bible because my mom/pastor/whomever told me a I should.
All of those would be me looking to man for salvation.
I DO believe the Bible because ultimately I asked GOD Himself and He told me I should. God Himself is with whom I have a relationship with and is my Savior. He is my Lord. He is the ultimate source of truth.
Have you done the same?
I agree with this part .
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God Himself is with whom I have a relationship with and is my Savior. He is my Lord. He is the ultimate source of truth.//
I would add . I believed the Gospel. 1 cor 15 ,1-4
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Well, you obviously don’t...
What part do you think is untrue? That the texts are ancient? That they were written by several authors? That they are culturally diverse? That they were written in ancient languages with which we are largely unfamiliar? That they have undergone editing over the course of centuries? What about any of those facts do you find “untrue?”
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
they’re all complicated in that manner.
But, for example, take the story in Luke 24:36b-48. We can’t get a true interpretation of that pericope until we understand what was happening culturally in the details of the story.
Did you believe the Gospel? And what would you say the Gospel is?
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
That the texts are their own authority. They are not. We ascribe authority to them.
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Well, isn’t that special!
///That they have undergone editing over the course of centuries .//// Nonsense .
Well you sound weird if you can't understand that basic concept.
Depends if you believe it comes from God or not .
36¶And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
37But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.
38And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?
39Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
40¶And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet.
41And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?
42And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.
43And he took it, and did eat before them.
44¶And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.
45Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,
46¶And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
47And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
Let's see .... Which part are you struggling with?
How about the entirety of what I said
WHY!?!!?
Believing because a text told you to is not good enough. That text is not your Savior. Where is GOD HIMSELF in your life? I keep asking, and still haven’t got an answer from you. And I am admittedly getting frustrated.